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7 months ago  ::  Nov 09, 2012 - 10:29AM #21
Felorn
Date Joined: Sep 2, 2011
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This is actually a very cool thread. I don't see why it didn't last longer. We have less creative discussions *looks at the is there Roleplaying in 4e thread* threads than this.

Sadly I'm not very good with Dragon names. But back towards the original poster I think a dragon would protect his true name under any circumstances, even from other dragons (well actually especially other dragons). But TrainedChimp gave me and Idea to make dragons based off the entire Periodic table... A Uranium Dragon would be cool, it could give of radiation and cause radiation poisoning to anyone within 100 feet. And its breath weapon could be a blast of nuclear power, like a mini nuke going off.


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7 months ago  ::  Nov 09, 2012 - 6:28PM #22
Chiba_Monkey
Date Joined: Aug 21, 2003
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Nov 9, 2012 -- 9:14AM, TrainedChimp wrote:

Nov 7, 2012 -- 7:51PM, Chiba_Monkey wrote:

I use an old convention when naming my dragons, and that is for the names to start with the first 2 letters of the color's latin name or first 2 letter of a variant color (for Chromatics) and the first 2 letters of a Metallic Dragon's name to be the symbol on the periodic table (for non-alloy metallics).

Alloy dragons would require a little more creativity. 




What about using the metals in the alloy? 

Ex:
Bronze - Copper and Tin - CuSn/SnCu - Cusnartheoin
Brass - Copper and Zinc - CuZn/ZnCu -  Cuznepartias
Iron - Iron and Carbon - FeC/CFe - Fecronterius 



The two that start with CU become too confused with actual Copper Dragons.  So...that doesn't work for me.  When I first started being a DM, back in 3.0, I used a brass named Brazden, though.

And Iron is not an alloy, it's an element.  You are referring to Steel.  And neither of which apply in this case, because I haven't used this method in 4e, as my 4e campaigns I've DM'ed so far, I have only used one dragon, and it was a green who went by the false name Redfang when he took over leadership of a tribe of orcs (which had the added benefit of my players believing him to be a red dragon...caught them by surprise). 

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7 months ago  ::  Nov 13, 2012 - 12:30AM #23
Rogue_Elendae
Date Joined: Oct 31, 2005
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I tend to both ascribe to the True Name concept, in that dragons keep long, slightly incomprehensible names that often grow as they get older due to the fact that their names have some measure of power over them, and they therefore want them to be unpronounceable by any humanoid tongue, and also to the theory that dragons simply hold such things as a pride factor.  Longer the name, the longer you've been around, the more power and prestige you hold in the dragon world.  Furthermore, many of my campaign world's dragons came by their titles as a result of human(oid) reaction, so it's often something they didn't intend upon.  Also, some of them simply prefer having an alias that lets them move in human circles, should they choose, I imagine.

In my game setting, I have four dragons I've detailed out (though there may be more noteable dragons in my world; I just haven't come up with them), mostly because they were what came to me at the time.  Their names tend to fall into one of two categories: an actual "dragon-y" name, or some sort of title, often implied to be in some long-forgotten tongue that has been out of use for so long that most don't know the meaning of it, and therefore assume that it is the dragon's proper name.  Most of the dragons don't care to discourage it, or they simply would point out--in the case of the chromatics--what that title means, in order to further their self-aggrandizement.

There's Sang Vermiel, a red dragon of fairly old age who's settled into a comfortable relationship with the people of a castle-city now named for him, because he has taken to extorting a massive tithe of food, treasure, and what-have-you from the citizens in favor of him not eating them.  Think of him as a mafia boss in dragon's clothing, as it were.  This is more a title than a proper name--a combination of the French word for blood, and a sort of mangling of the terms "vermeil" and vermilion--implying both blood red and a sense of "blood money".  He's old, set in his ways, and doesn't care to put out much effort unless he has to.  And with an entire city all too happy to do what he wishes under threat of having their crops burned, their livestock (and possibly families) devoured, and their city demolished, he doesn't have to do much of anything but sit around and watch his hoard grow.  He doesn't have to worry about keeping his True Name hidden, because more folks fear his title at this point.

Next is Asketanaraisha, a silver dragon who's better known as Raisha.  She is a sort of mother-hen type, who finds humans and other such beings fascinating in their absolutely deuced determination to do things that could likely get them killed.  She's quite willing to help travelers where she can, for the right price, and on the promise that they'll return to tell her what became of their strange plans to do...whatever it is they were setting off to do.  She's chatty, a bit fussy, and has a sort of empty nest syndrome, as her only offspring is off doing gods only know what somewhere far away from her.  In her case, the name shortening is only for the sake of making her name easy to pronounce, as well as keeping it from being readily known to those who might use a True Name against her.

Then there's Tefydarian, the young copper dragon who tends to wander the world masquerading as an Elf Bard.  He's more often known as Fidarian, with a completely different pronunciation than the fragment of his draconic name (Fih-dar-ee-an, as opposed to Teh-fie-dar-ee-an), and he likes the anonymity of it.  It lets him find out more things of interest, and keep abreast of the goings on in the world, if people are unaware they're speaking to a dragon.  For him, it's all about hiding in plain sight, as opposed to anything mystical.

And then there's the resident terror of my campaign world, one Xzeviticus Galloreiin.  A black dragon who's quite likely the oldest dragon in the world, and the most sadistic, cruel, downright foul beast you'd ever meet.  He's also actually a hybrid of red and black dragons, as I tend to ascribe to a belief that dragons are a rare thing, and thus chromatics can interbreed, as can metallics, and the resultant offspring has the appearance/breath weapon of one parent, but might have traits/mannerisms of the other.  Xzeviticus has the red dragon tendency toward meglomania and the like, in spades.  He's also quite arrogant, though with good reason--he's gotten and kept his power by being both cunning and powerful, treacherous and brutal.  He knows when it's best to simply kill someone outright, or when they might be useful to him if they remain alive.  He's an incredibly well-studied mage, but also is willing to disguise himself as a warrior of great physical prowess, such that no one expects his mystical might.  He's also quite the tyrannical brute; mispronouncing his name is grounds for getting bitten in half, though he'd never lower himself to the savage practice of devouring someone for it.  Such things are for those oafish, bestial white and blue brutes, in his mind.  His name is actually nearly unpronounceable by human tongue, requiring a great amount of hissing and growling to be said properly; no one's sure where the name originates from, but it means "Destroyer of Worlds" in some long-lost tongue.  He has no care for what one might do with his True Name, nor does he use his title for any sort of implications of power.  All fear the mere mention of him, for that name has been passed down from antiquity as a thing of terror.

I imagine that a low-magic setting would be any number of such things.  Maybe there's just a draconic custom of lengthening the name for every decade/century/stage of life.  Maybe it began as a practice against True Name-based rituals, though these rituals might actually have been lost to the sands of time.  Nonetheless, the dragons remain steadfast in adhering to this practice, be it out of habit or for fear that someone may find the spells again.  That said, you could also go the way of giving the dragons titles and other names, as something that other races use to either show that these dragons inspire great fear, foster great hope, etc., or as a way around some unpronounceable stew of draconic.
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 16, 2012 - 6:11AM #24
Aetharion
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I name most dragons either with traditional suffixes (-s, -x, etc.) or with the Elder Scrolls dragon language. The latter is more interesting since I can incorporate aspects of the dragon itself into its name - my players once fought a Dracolich named Vulqethkulaan, which literally means "Dark Bone Prince".
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 17, 2012 - 12:49AM #25
aaronil
Date Joined: Sep 7, 2009
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Nov 16, 2012 -- 6:11AM, Aetharion wrote:

I name most dragons either with traditional suffixes (-s, -x, etc.) or with the Elder Scrolls dragon language. The latter is more interesting since I can incorporate aspects of the dragon itself into its name - my players once fought a Dracolich named Vulqethkulaan, which literally means "Dark Bone Prince".


The dragon my group is currently facing is called Kaldwarag. the accent falls on the first syllable.

The name came about as a combination of Y Draig Goch (the Welsh Dragon), the North European Draugar (meaning "ghost" but derived from Gaelic "driug" meaning "portent/meteor"), and some other fantasy dragon name that began with a K that I can't recall. 

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7 months ago  ::  Nov 20, 2012 - 2:53PM #26
Ithrowarockatit
Date Joined: Oct 23, 2012
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Dragons in the campaign I'm currently in: Borastion, Cyan Bloodbane, Apopholiat (Or as our wizard calls her, Apocalypsogonorrheasyphilis), Zatairak. Only one of these is a true name. Can you guess which one?
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6 months ago  ::  Nov 25, 2012 - 3:33PM #27
bajatmerc
Date Joined: Mar 3, 2010
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Nov 16, 2012 -- 6:11AM, Aetharion wrote:

I name most dragons either with traditional suffixes (-s, -x, etc.) or with the Elder Scrolls dragon language. The latter is more interesting since I can incorporate aspects of the dragon itself into its name - my players once fought a Dracolich named Vulqethkulaan, which literally means "Dark Bone Prince".



Thought there should be a translator for skyrim's dragon language and I found one. 

kelvinpeach.com/programs/skyrim-dragon-t...

It's not perfect.

Big Red Dragon translated to:
Big Sahqo Dovah 

Found another one though, and it translated the same way.
geekti.me/utils/dtrans.html

More translated to more
big to big

Maybe they are suppose to. I didn't research the manual way to translate.  

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6 months ago  ::  Dec 16, 2012 - 12:42AM #28
Aetharion
Date Joined: Sep 22, 2009
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Nov 25, 2012 -- 3:33PM, bajatmerc wrote:

Nov 16, 2012 -- 6:11AM, Aetharion wrote:

I name most dragons either with traditional suffixes (-s, -x, etc.) or with the Elder Scrolls dragon language. The latter is more interesting since I can incorporate aspects of the dragon itself into its name - my players once fought a Dracolich named Vulqethkulaan, which literally means "Dark Bone Prince".



Thought there should be a translator for skyrim's dragon language and I found one. 

kelvinpeach.com/programs/skyrim-dragon-t...

It's not perfect.

Big Red Dragon translated to:
Big Sahqo Dovah 

Found another one though, and it translated the same way.
geekti.me/utils/dtrans.html

More translated to more
big to big

Maybe they are suppose to. I didn't research the manual way to translate.  



Just google Skyrim/Elder Scrolls Dragon Language or something like that and you can find several dictionaries easily.

I've compiled most of the nouns and adjectives that I could find that would make sense for a dragon to be named:

Nouns



Bah


Wrath


Krah


Cold


Qo


Lightning


Al


Destroyer


Qeth


Bone


Sil


Soul


Krosis


Sorrow


Kulaan/Kulaas


Prince/Princess


Dinok


Death


Sos


Blood


Strunmah


Mountain


Strun


Storm


Lok


Sky


Od


Snow


Yol


Fire


Vul(om)


Dark(ness)


Vulon


Night


Vokul


Evil


Vokun


Shadow


Nahkriin


Vengeance


Nah


Fury


Ven


Wind


Hun


Hero


Paar


Ambition


Hokoron


Enemy


Fo


Frost


Kriid


Slayer


Vahlok


Guardian


Maar


Terror


Feyn


Bane


Laas


Life


Kest


Tempest


Jot


Maw


Iiz


Ice


In


Master


Jun


King


Ah


Hunter


Kaal


Champion


Gol


Earth


Kul


Son


Dez


Fate


Kro


Sorceror


Qolaas


Herald


Klo


Sand


Yuvon


Gold


Oblaan


End


Hahdrim


Mind


Hahnu


Dream


Joor


Mortal


Viing


Wing


Nax


Cruelty


Tu


Hammer


Tux


Blade


Toor


Inferno


Miin


Eye


Zind


Triumph


Haal


Hand


Grah


Battle



 
 

Adjectives



Sahrot


Mighty


Krah


Cold


Hevno


Brutal


Vul


Dark


Nahl


Living


Ved


Black


Lot


Great


Mul


Strong


Revak


Sacred


Dilon


Dead


Bruniik


Savage


Yuvon


Golden


Kinzon


Sharp


Daanik


Doomed


Krent


Broken


Munax


Cruel


Viintaas


Shining


Morokei


Glorious


Odus


Snowy


Norok


Fiercest


Nonvul


Noble 




Other



Qahnaar


Vanquish


Naak


Eat


Vo...


Opposite of...


Ag


Burn


Do


Of/About


Ahrk


And


Nimaar


Itself


(Fin)


(The)




And some examples of names:


Nahlstrun


Living Storm


Blue


Miindotoor


Eye of the Inferno


Red


Hevnokrahven


Brutal Cold Wind


White


Vahlokdogol


Guardian of Earth (element)


Purple, Brown


Kuldofeynsos


Son of Bloodbane


Green


Hevnokriid


Brutal Slayer


Grey, Any


Qolaasdoal


Herald of the Destroyer


Chromatic


Viingdovokun


Wings of Shadow


Black, Undead


Zindmorokei


Glorious Triumph


Metallic


Qolaasdojunyuvon


Herald of the Golden Emperor


Gold


Qolaasdokrenttux


Herald of Broken Swords


Any




Direct translations rarely make sense in any language; it's better to pick something from a language that's already there.
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