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3 years ago ::
Jun 30, 2010 - 11:30PM
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Yeah, there used to be a True Name thing, but it never really made any sense and felt tacked on. Back in AD&D the biggest, baddest dragon (Ancient Huge Red) would get spanked pretty hard, and subdued by a solo 10th level (or less) fighter or a party of 7th level characters. But they were paranoid about an 18th level mage that could turn them to dust with a wink and a nod would know their true name. Right.
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What dragons were you looking at in AD&D, where the biggest one would get soloed by a 10th level fighter?
Certainly not the same ones in my MM, unless the fighter had every artifact in the game.
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3 years ago ::
Jul 01, 2010 - 3:34AM
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I name dragons, chuck, frank, john, bob and stuff like that. I'm not gonna spend a month stringing gibberish together to make something that sounds kinda like a name. Actually I give them names that PEOPLE call them, as "MY" dragons never tell you their real names and generally when asked their names, reply, "you may call me lord or master if you wish." Unless it's a friendly dragon, in which case they give you the company line of, "your mortal mind cannot comprehend the complex and intricate pronunciations of my name, Simply call me fred."
Infernaltatersaladusranchdressingwithsteakneggsmaxus..... Bob works just fine.
[edit] Funny enough, spell check found no misspelled words....
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3 years ago ::
Jul 01, 2010 - 3:56AM
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What dragons were you looking at in AD&D, where the biggest one would get soloed by a 10th level fighter?
Certainly not the same ones in my MM, unless the fighter had every artifact in the game.
I was gonna ask the same thing.
Either his DM was MUCH too kind in reflavoring dragon-powers, or his characters were allowed to all have as many highly potent magical items as they wanted or could come up with. The oldest red dragon has an AC of -11. At 10th level, a fighter had a (typical) THAC0 of 11. I hope he had his 22-sided dice, 'cuz that's what he's gonna need to hit that thing. Aside from the 24d10+12 breath weapon and 65% magic resistence, the damn things knew too many spells at that age for it to even be a remotely fair fight for a 10th level party, let alone a solo fighter.
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3 years ago ::
Jul 01, 2010 - 1:49PM
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What dragons were you looking at in AD&D, where the biggest one would get soloed by a 10th level fighter?
Certainly not the same ones in my MM, unless the fighter had every artifact in the game.
I was gonna ask the same thing.
Either his DM was MUCH too kind in reflavoring dragon-powers, or his characters were allowed to all have as many highly potent magical items as they wanted or could come up with. The oldest red dragon has an AC of -11. At 10th level, a fighter had a (typical) THAC0 of 11. I hope he had his 22-sided dice, 'cuz that's what he's gonna need to hit that thing. Aside from the 24d10+12 breath weapon and 65% magic resistence, the damn things knew too many spells at that age for it to even be a remotely fair fight for a 10th level party, let alone a solo fighter.
I think this is an edition misunderstanding. You're talking about SECOND edition AD&D dragons. The guy that made the solo by 10th level fighter comment is obviously talking about FIRST edition AD&D dragons, totally different thing.
A 1e Ancient Huge Red Dragon has 88 hit points, AC -1, and makes 3 attacks at 1-8/1-8/3-30 and can breath fire 3x per day for 88 damage (44 on a save). So a 10th level fighter will have NO problem hitting, needing a 12 before any bonuses (and at 10th level will probably have something like a +3 sword and quite probably has another +2 from strength items). A 7+ should let your fighter hit. Of course said fighter will likely do something like 3d6+9 damage and maybe some extra depending on what exactly his sword does. He'll be getting 3 attacks per 2 rounds, but obviously will need something like 4 rounds to kill the dragon. If he can come up with immunity to fire he might live long enough to do it. This all assumes of course he can engineer a situation where he can come toe-to-toe with the dragon and force it to duke it out. It also assumes the dragon is non-spell-using (about 30% of Red Dragons can use spells). In 1e dragons have NO magic resistance at all, so whatever spell-like effects our fighter can get from items will work.
Basically its unlikely a single 10th level PC can solo a dragon of that power, but it is technically possible in 1e. In 2e dragons are MUCH MUCH MUCH stronger. A 10th level 2e PC would simply be annihilated, though a wizard would have SOME chance. He'd have to have a way to fire off some kind of SoD before the dragon could react and hope and pray to overcome its MR and high save (said dragon IIRC basically counts as a 22nd level monster for save purposes).
Basically in 2e you called a dragon "Your Infinitely Potent Majesty, how can I serve you?" and hoped the answer wasn't "serve yourself on toasted rye with dijon". Of course a low paragon 4e character faced with an epic dragon is in pretty much the same boat.
If you want some decent dragon names Draconomicon: Chromatic Dragons has a nice list of words in Draconic to use.
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3 years ago ::
Jul 13, 2010 - 1:13PM
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Well I only started D&D in 4e. I have only heard tails of the old days.
THAC0!
I was SO glad when they got rid of it. It made explaining things alot easier.
I've got one dragon so far in my campaign, but he was named by a human. Therefore he's stuck with the moniker of Auric Gildenfang.
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3 years ago ::
Jul 13, 2010 - 9:18PM
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Varcariax (Var-car-i-ax)-
For blue or black dragons.
Kazolorn (Kaz-o-lorn)-
For a green, red, black, or white dragons.
Dzavarian (Dza-var-i-an)-
For green, white, or red dragons.
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3 years ago ::
Jul 14, 2010 - 2:51AM
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Well, the young green dragon my players just offed was called Velox. He was overconfident, and they were insistent on fighting him. [His job was to test anybody who wanted to see the mysterious master smith Terios]
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7 months ago ::
Nov 07, 2012 - 12:20PM
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I cast REZ! Because making a new thread would be lamer. I have to name 10 red adult pact dragons. I like the syllables added for experience or milestones. However, the closest I have come to finding a name generator is www.rinkworks.com/namegen/Where I use the template svsvsvsv So I got ten names out of it: Ightoentharisooldo Elmeaughuashiusti Tanyseradanoumo Verialeyhatochee Rodyhateyeruraka Taniqueodanutiai Torakelaoughuinga Lerotaiaengangi Kaluworiqueikino Mosirothyesseuska But they are only adults so I thought maybe just svsv would be better. Nysuisu Kinutura Leroanu Rodousky Queayeri Endeawe Chaelyeo Ingacky Taiurisa Oldawaro The game is play by post, so I will let the players keep track of their dragons rather than put way too much infor for what might just be ignored.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 07, 2012 - 7:51PM
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More like Animate Thread, lol.
But it's interesting, so I'll put in my 2 cp.
I use an old convention when naming my dragons, and that is for the names to start with the first 2 letters of the color's latin name or first 2 letter of a variant color (for Chromatics) and the first 2 letters of a Metallic Dragon's name to be the symbol on the periodic table (for non-alloy metallics).
Examples:
Green - Verde - Vercinatres
Blue - Azul (or Azure, if you prefer) - Azaggerax
Black - Negro - Nephyltaril
Red - (here I prefer to use variant of red, such as Scarlet) - Scajjothelet
You get the idea.
Metallic names would be:
Copper - Cu - Cutharnarian
Gold - Au - Aureleturel
Silver - Ag - Ageriathecen
Alloy dragons would require a little more creativity.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 09, 2012 - 9:14AM
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Jul 23, 2011
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I use an old convention when naming my dragons, and that is for the names to start with the first 2 letters of the color's latin name or first 2 letter of a variant color (for Chromatics) and the first 2 letters of a Metallic Dragon's name to be the symbol on the periodic table (for non-alloy metallics).
Alloy dragons would require a little more creativity.
What about using the metals in the alloy?
Ex:
Bronze - Copper and Tin - CuSn/SnCu - Cusnartheoin
Brass - Copper and Zinc - CuZn/ZnCu - Cuznepartias
Iron - Iron and Carbon - FeC/CFe - Fecronterius
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