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Nov 1, 2011 -- 10:38AM, furious_kender wrote:

Nov 1, 2011 -- 9:40AM, theEDGEofSOMETHING wrote:

Question can you use Monks Unarmed Strike with two weapon attacks?

I am making a fighter brawler that will take the Shock Trooper PP but people are saying you can and

can't used Monks unarmed strike with two weapon powers.  Since you literally wrote the book on

Monk I thought you should know.

If you are wondering how i got monks unarmed strike on a fighter I took the monastic Disciple feat.

The monk unarmed rules and the ki focus rules were written badly and are, at best, unclear.   As a result, the only person's opinion that should matter is your DM's, as is the case with all unclear and/or non-sensical rules. 

To give you a clear ruling, you need a clear defintion of "wield" which WoTC has never provided.  In addition, you would need Monk Unarmed Strike clarified.  The most common definitions of "wield"  that WoTC uses is "are able to attack with."  By this defintion, you can simultaneously wield the Monk Unarmed Strike in each hand, as you are able to attack with the Monk Unarmed Strike with either hand.   

Does wielding the Monk Unarmed Strike in both hands mean you are wielding two weapons?  The whole question is sort of stupid IMO.   RAW COULD be read as saying the monk unarmed strike is a single weapon.  I mean how crazy is it that you are wielding a weapon in the main hand and the off hand, but then oops sorry they could be construed as the same weapon so you can't use the attack power.  However, RAW COULD also be interpreted as you wielding infinite monk unarmed strikes if you have one hand free, as you could elbow, kick, toe jab, punch, head butt, pinky jab, etc.  Which of these interpretations is correct, well that's up to your DM.

Honestly, the only time I would worry about this sort of thing is if you're playing LFR or some other living campaign.  In that case, you may have some table variation from time to time, but 99% of DMs won't even ask what weapons you are wielding.

Thank you very much.  For the sake of the build I will stick with two weapon attacks.

Nov 4, 2011 -- 11:12AM, Cyvaris wrote:

Wood Elf doesn't look to bad, you have ridicoulous Intiative for one plus they get a nice stealth feature. So any suggestions?

If your build is really tight on feats and you want the benefit of improved/superior initiative without having to spend a feat on it, the Wood Elf isn't a bad option, but losing the attack reroll from Elven Accuracy hurts. Plus, being a Dex primary class, your initiative is going to be good to begin with.

Nov 4, 2011 -- 2:26PM, Cyvaris wrote:

Then I loaded up the builder and saw the new elf features. I was just wondering if they were any good.

I like them for Wisdom primary characters, since it effectively gives you the benefit of Battlewise and Improved/Superior Initiative at the same time. For anyone else, I wouldn't bother unless you really need more initiative but can't free up any room in your feat build.

Nov 6, 2011 -- 1:04PM, Brother_Griften wrote:

If I use Starblade Flurry at a foe 5 squares from me, and I am a Centred Breath monk, does the foe slide adjacent to me from 5 squares away?

No.  They're slid 1 square in any direction, as they cannot be originally targeted by Flurry of Blows.