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Aug 26, 2010 - 12:51PM
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I am neither in the camp of A or B, I am in the camp of C: Resistance to damage is Resistance to damage whereas is something says you have a way to bypass a Resistance type then no matter the source of that Resistance it is bypassed. Any questions by people who are willing to look at the big picture?
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on Aug 26, 2010 - 03:53PM
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3 years ago ::
Aug 26, 2010 - 12:54PM
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I am neither in the camp of A or B, I am in the camp of C: Resistance to damage is Resistance to damage whereas is something says you have a way to bypass a Resistance type then no matter the source of that Resistance it is bypassed. Any questions by people who are willing to look at the big picture?
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on Aug 26, 2010 - 03:54PM
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3 years ago ::
Aug 26, 2010 - 3:56PM
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I've removed content from this thread because baitung and harassment are Code of Conduct violations. You can review the Code of Conduct here: wizards.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wizards.cfg...Please keep your posts polite, respectful, and on-topic, and refrain from making personal attacks.
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3 years ago ::
Aug 26, 2010 - 4:37PM
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Or, more specifically, Venom Hand Master doesn't say you bypass resistance-it says you bypass poison resistance.
So I ammend my original post: That's actually supported by the rules, but the feat in question doesn't use that language.
(Original post got moderated because I had quoted someone of whom had made a personal attack. At least, I hope that's why it got moderated ;x)
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3 years ago ::
Aug 26, 2010 - 8:53PM
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Actually it was a counter attack and when it comes to making a counter attack there are plently of times when I can care less about the rules because I will speak my mind plain and simple.
As to what you are saying about the feat not bypassing resistance but it says you bypass poison resistance, is that not bypassing a resistance? The source of the resistance doesn't matter weither it is a generalised resistance or a specific one, otherwise as brought up earlier something that provides vulnerable to all would not work for something that does a specific damage type because it isn't a generalized damage as you seem to be arguing.
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3 years ago ::
Aug 26, 2010 - 9:49PM
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Actually it was a counter attack and when it comes to making a counter attack there are plently of times when I can care less about the rules because I will speak my mind plain and simple.
As to what you are saying about the feat not bypassing resistance but it says you bypass poison resistance, is that not bypassing a resistance? The source of the resistance doesn't matter weither it is a generalised resistance or a specific one, otherwise as brought up earlier something that provides vulnerable to all would not work for something that does a specific damage type because it isn't a generalized damage as you seem to be arguing.
Then you were really in camp B all along. You made a semantic distinction in order to not have your position already have been disproven, and then when I show that that semantic distinction doesn't give you the conclusion you wanted, you try and go back to being in camp B without addressing what was wrong with camp B in the first place.
The line is "Bypass poison resistance." Poison resistance is the noun. Not resistance. Poison resistance. Unless you're making the argument that Resist All includes Poison resistance and without poison resistance, it wouldn't make a creature resist poison, you are not bypassing Resist All-or, alternatively, your "interpretation" is totally unsupported by the existing game language.
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3 years ago ::
Aug 26, 2010 - 10:25PM
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Actually it was a counter attack and when it comes to making a counter attack there are plently of times when I can care less about the rules because I will speak my mind plain and simple.
As to what you are saying about the feat not bypassing resistance but it says you bypass poison resistance, is that not bypassing a resistance? The source of the resistance doesn't matter weither it is a generalised resistance or a specific one, otherwise as brought up earlier something that provides vulnerable to all would not work for something that does a specific damage type because it isn't a generalized damage as you seem to be arguing.
Not to derail this more with discussion of vulnerable than I already have, but vulnerable to all damage is how things are generally worded now (unless the vulnerability is to something more specific, such as a damage type or just to attacks). Something that is vulnerable to all damage is vulnerable to all damage, the type or lack of type doesn't matter, all that matters is that it is damage.
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3 years ago ::
Aug 27, 2010 - 2:10AM
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I am neither in the camp of A or B, I am in the camp of C: Resistance to damage is Resistance to damage whereas is something says you have a way to bypass a Resistance type then no matter the source of that Resistance it is bypassed. Any questions by people who are willing to look at the big picture?
You are being willfully ignorant here, by ignoring the fact that resistances are themselves unique properties separate from one another, and that they at times produce effects which are similar.
This has gone beyond the point of being a debate, now you are just stamping your feet and insisting that your wrong interpretation be validated by others. Sorry, but no. It's wrong. You can play it as you wish, and you can yammer and stomp all you want, but that doesn't change its incorrect nature.
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Yeah. I did just kill your BBEG with a vorpal frisbee. Problem?
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