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3 years ago  ::  May 30, 2010 - 1:01PM #31
Roofshadow
Date Joined: Feb 11, 2009
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What's giving you thievery as a class skill or the ability to pick up fast hands?
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3 years ago  ::  May 30, 2010 - 1:18PM #32
AlphatheGreat
Date Joined: Mar 22, 2008
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May 30, 2010 -- 1:01PM, Roofshadow wrote:

What's giving you thievery as a class skill or the ability to pick up fast hands?



Warlocks get thievery as a class skill, according to CB.
You just need thievery to take Fast Hands.

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3 years ago  ::  May 30, 2010 - 4:43PM #33
BlueOmega
Date Joined: May 11, 2007
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How did you qualify for Avernian Knight? Isn't that a Fighter Paragon Path?

Avernian Knight
Prequisities: Fighter and either Eldritch Pack (Infernal) class feature or Pact Initiate (Infernal Pact) feat.

Your character is a Swordlock, but not a Fighterlock, it isn't an option to skip over not being a fighter, you're either one with warlock potential or your not.
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3 years ago  ::  May 30, 2010 - 5:13PM #34
glientz
Date Joined: Sep 25, 2005
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May 30, 2010 -- 4:43PM, BlueOmega wrote:

How did you qualify for Avernian Knight? Isn't that a Fighter Paragon Path?

Avernian Knight
Prequisities: Fighter and either Eldritch Pack (Infernal) class feature or Pact Initiate (Infernal Pact) feat.

Your character is a Swordlock, but not a Fighterlock, it isn't an option to skip over not being a fighter, you're either one with warlock potential or your not.



Read the build.  He *is* a fighter.  Wrathful Warrior, level 10.

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3 years ago  ::  May 30, 2010 - 5:37PM #35
The_scholar
Date Joined: May 30, 2010
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Then his sheet should reflect that (Swordmage|Warlock/Fighter, Avernian Knight, Sage of Ages) as that is typically what you will get with a Hybrid Character. Otherwise not many errors, and it looks quite fun to play this. Heck you could probably mop the floor with Orcus or Tiamat if you felt like it.
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3 years ago  ::  May 30, 2010 - 5:38PM #36
Ytterbium_Dragon
Date Joined: Mar 22, 2009
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May 30, 2010 -- 5:37PM, The_scholar wrote:

Then his sheet should reflect that (Swordmage|Warlock/Fighter, Avernian Knight, Sage of Ages) as that is typically what you will get with a Hybrid Character. Otherwise not many errors, and it looks quite fun to play this. Heck you could probably mop the floor with Orcus or Tiamat if you felt like it.



It doesn't have any errors, and it's not listed like that because that's not how the CB does it.

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3 years ago  ::  May 30, 2010 - 5:50PM #37
The_scholar
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May 30, 2010 -- 5:38PM, Ytterbium_Dragon wrote:

May 30, 2010 -- 5:37PM, The_scholar wrote:

Then his sheet should reflect that (Swordmage|Warlock/Fighter, Avernian Knight, Sage of Ages) as that is typically what you will get with a Hybrid Character. Otherwise not many errors, and it looks quite fun to play this. Heck you could probably mop the floor with Orcus or Tiamat if you felt like it.



It doesn't have any errors, and it's not listed like that because that's not how the CB does it.



I said not many errors, who said it had errors? A lot of characters tend to have errors with how they function, this one actually has much thought put into it and still works in recreating a well known character into a D&D setting.

Fine not how the CB does it, but you are still a Swordlock / Fighter regardless as you multiclassed into being a Fighter even if the CB does not say so.


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3 years ago  ::  May 30, 2010 - 5:54PM #38
Ytterbium_Dragon
Date Joined: Mar 22, 2009
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May 30, 2010 -- 5:50PM, The_scholar wrote:

May 30, 2010 -- 5:38PM, Ytterbium_Dragon wrote:

May 30, 2010 -- 5:37PM, The_scholar wrote:

Then his sheet should reflect that (Swordmage|Warlock/Fighter, Avernian Knight, Sage of Ages) as that is typically what you will get with a Hybrid Character. Otherwise not many errors, and it looks quite fun to play this. Heck you could probably mop the floor with Orcus or Tiamat if you felt like it.



It doesn't have any errors, and it's not listed like that because that's not how the CB does it.



I said not many errors, who said it had errors? A lot of characters tend to have errors with how they function, this one actually has much thought put into it and still works in recreating a well known character into a D&D setting.

Fine not how the CB does it, but you are still a Swordlock / Fighter regardless as you multiclassed into being a Fighter even if the CB does not say so.




Not many errors ==> one or more error. This build doesn't have any.

Yes, it's a swordmage/fighter, but CB doesn't use that notation. You said that it should say Swordmage/Fighter, but that's just not how the CB works. I don't see why he should change it when fighter MC is clearly listed in his feat choices.

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3 years ago  ::  May 30, 2010 - 6:10PM #39
The_scholar
Date Joined: May 30, 2010
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May 30, 2010 -- 5:54PM, Ytterbium_Dragon wrote:

May 30, 2010 -- 5:50PM, The_scholar wrote:

May 30, 2010 -- 5:38PM, Ytterbium_Dragon wrote:

May 30, 2010 -- 5:37PM, The_scholar wrote:

Then his sheet should reflect that (Swordmage|Warlock/Fighter, Avernian Knight, Sage of Ages) as that is typically what you will get with a Hybrid Character. Otherwise not many errors, and it looks quite fun to play this. Heck you could probably mop the floor with Orcus or Tiamat if you felt like it.



It doesn't have any errors, and it's not listed like that because that's not how the CB does it.



I said not many errors, who said it had errors? A lot of characters tend to have errors with how they function, this one actually has much thought put into it and still works in recreating a well known character into a D&D setting.

Fine not how the CB does it, but you are still a Swordlock / Fighter regardless as you multiclassed into being a Fighter even if the CB does not say so.




Not many errors ==> one or more error. This build doesn't have any.

Yes, it's a swordmage/fighter, but CB doesn't use that notation. You said that it should say Swordmage/Fighter, but that's just not how the CB works. I don't see why he should change it when fighter MC is clearly listed in his feat choices.




Hmm for listing an error, how about the lack of a price for how much everything costed if you were to play this, that would be nice to know some numbers.

How about for an error, the lack of explanation like what were this character's pro's and con's throughout the adventures this character was being played.

How about for an error, the also lack of explaning of what each part of the character was great, sure a brief description the defenses is nice, but the OP could give the readers reasons for his choices on powers, equipment, feat, etc as well. What I see in the first post is basically a brief reasoning and a character sheet, the nuggets of his explanation have to be described in later on posts that are reactive to what others say.

Ugh... I said a Swordmage|Warlock/Fighter, obvisously you skipped over the Warlock part. I never said make it a Swordmage/Fighter, as I said also a Swordlock/Fighter, whenever you add Lock onto the end of something in D&D that is a HINT HINT that is usually a WarLock of some sort of build.

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3 years ago  ::  May 30, 2010 - 6:14PM #40
glientz
Date Joined: Sep 25, 2005
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May 30, 2010 -- 6:10PM, The_scholar wrote:



Hmm for listing an error, how about the lack of a price for how much everything costed if you were to play this, that would be nice to know some numbers.



Failing to include "nice to have" info isn't an error.

May 30, 2010 -- 6:10PM, The_scholar wrote:


How about for an error, the lack of explanation like what were this character's pro's and con's throughout the adventures this character was being played.




Not including an explanation of pros and cons isn't an error.

May 30, 2010 -- 6:10PM, The_scholar wrote:



How about for an error, the also lack of explaning of what each part of the character was great, sure a brief description the defenses is nice, but the OP could give the readers reasons for his choices on powers, equipment, feat, etc as well. What I see in the first post is basically a brief reasoning and a character sheet, the nuggets of his explanation have to be described in later on posts that are reactive to what others say.




Providing fewer details than you would like isn't an error.

May 30, 2010 -- 6:10PM, The_scholar wrote:



Ugh... I said a Swordmage|Warlock/Fighter, obvisously you skipped over the Warlock part. I never said make it a Swordmage/Fighter, as I said also a Swordlock/Fighter, whenever you add Lock onto the end of something in D&D that is a HINT HINT that is usually a WarLock of some sort of build.



Swordlock isn't a common portmanteau around here, FYI.

Also, you may want to consider changing your screen name.

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