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3 years ago  ::  May 11, 2010 - 2:51PM #1
Plaguescarred
Date Joined: May 12, 2009
Posts: 16,564

Hey Fellas,
A question came up last session about the stacking of Ongoing damage of various type, or their negation.

If you get an Ongoing 5 Necrotic damage and later you get an Ongoing 5 Necrotic and Psychic Damage, at the Start of Your Turn, how much damage will you get ? Some think you'll get 10 and others think you'll get 5 because the 2 Necrotic Damage won't stack, even if they are from a combined damage Ongoing.  I believe they are treated by the first paragraph Rule text while some friends think part of the second Ongoing Damage come and negate the first Ongoing, for same Damage type don't stack, as per the second paragraph of Rule text.

How are they treated finally ?


Thx.  For Reference:

PHB 278 Ongoing Damage

- Different Types of Ongoing Damage:
If effects deal ongoing damage of different types, you take damage from each effect every round. You make a separate saving throw against each damage type.
- The Same Type of Ongoing Damage: If effects deal ongoing damage of the same type, or if the damage has no type, only the higher number applies. Example: You’re taking ongoing 5 damage (no type) when a power causes you to take ongoing 10 damage. You’re now taking ongoing 10 damage, not 15.

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3 years ago  ::  May 11, 2010 - 3:06PM #2
mvincent
Date Joined: Jun 15, 2004
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May 11, 2010 -- 2:51PM, Plaguescarred wrote:

If you get an Ongoing 5 Necrotic damage and later you get an Ongoing 5 Necrotic and Psychic Damage, at the Start of Your Turn, how much damage will you get ?


10 (i.e. 5 Necrotic and 5 Psychic)

Example: if you had 3 ongoing effects: 5 Necrotic, 5 Psychic and 5 Necrotic and Psychic, then you would take 10... not 5, not 15.

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3 years ago  ::  May 11, 2010 - 3:11PM #3
Plaguescarred
Date Joined: May 12, 2009
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Thanks mvincent. Humm....your exemple mix me up though.  The damage would be negated or split up and broken ?   Or it'd be 10 (i.e. 5 Necrotic and 5 Necrotic & Psychic)

As in ...

Ongoing 5 Necrotic
Ongoing 5 Necrotic & Psychic

OR

Ongoing 5 Necrotic
Ongoing 5 Necrotic & Psychic
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3 years ago  ::  May 11, 2010 - 3:13PM #4
Plaguescarred
Date Joined: May 12, 2009
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May 11, 2010 -- 3:06PM, mvincent wrote:

Example: if you had 3 ongoing effects: 5 Necrotic, 5 Psychic and 5 Necrotic and Psychic, then you would take 10... not 5, not 15.




Why 10 and not 15 ? Aren't they 3 different damage type ?

Ongoing 5 Necrotic
Ongoing 5 Psychic
Ongoing 5 Necrotic & Psychic

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3 years ago  ::  May 11, 2010 - 3:16PM #5
Plaguescarred
Date Joined: May 12, 2009
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Ok got it. Only 2 Damage type total. Necrotic AND Psychic. So the 3rd Ongoing would not stack. (I though the Necrotic & Psychic was an exclusive damage type somehow...Laughing)

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3 years ago  ::  May 11, 2010 - 4:04PM #6
Toki_Wartooth
Date Joined: Feb 14, 2007
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May 11, 2010 -- 3:16PM, Plaguescarred wrote:

Ok got it.


That's a whole lot of solo posting. Are you... um... are you math-urbating?

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3 years ago  ::  May 11, 2010 - 4:31PM #7
Plaguescarred
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May 11, 2010 -- 4:04PM, Toki_Wartooth wrote:

May 11, 2010 -- 3:16PM, Plaguescarred wrote:

Ok got it.


That's a whole lot of solo posting. Are you... um... are you math-urbating?




You're a funny guy.  Are you....um....are you 10 years old ?

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3 years ago  ::  May 11, 2010 - 4:40PM #8
Toki_Wartooth
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May 11, 2010 -- 4:31PM, Plaguescarred wrote:

Are you....um....are you 10 years old ?


Why 10 and not 15 ?

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3 years ago  ::  May 11, 2010 - 7:25PM #9
mplindustries
Date Joined: Apr 5, 2006
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May 11, 2010 -- 3:06PM, mvincent wrote:

Example: if you had 3 ongoing effects: 5 Necrotic, 5 Psychic and 5 Necrotic and Psychic, then you would take 10... not 5, not 15.


There are two possibilities here, and neither at 10.

You might take 5 damage, and here's why:

5 Necrotic
5 Psychic
5 Necrotic and Psychic

That is, of course, assuming the damage of the last power is: 5 (Necrotic) and (Psychic).

If, instead, it is 5 (Necrotic and Psychic), i.e. a third different damage type, then the ongoing stack would deal the full 15.

I think strict RAW, it'd be 5.  I would personally run it as 15.  It's kind of your call, really.

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3 years ago  ::  May 11, 2010 - 8:01PM #10
Plaguescarred
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It must depend which Effects you get first, of what i understand.

If they were applied in this order it would be 10 :

1. Ongoing 5 Necrotic
2. Ongoing 5 Psychic
3. Ongoing 5 Necrotic & Psychic


and if they were applied in this order it would be 5:

1. Ongoing 5 Necrotic & Psychic
2. Ongoing 5 Psychic
3. Ongoing 5 Necrotic

With the Strikethrough showing which damage type doesn't get multiplied if i get everything right.
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