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3 years ago ::
May 03, 2010 - 7:44AM
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Dec 21, 2006
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If I hit one target with this, I make the same burst attack the next round. I am assuming no matter how many hits, I get one attack the next round. If I hit with the successive attack, I would attack again until I eventually miss or have no targets? It seems awfully powerful. Rolling EchoEncounter Arcane, Implement, Thunder
Standard Action Close burst 2 Target: Each enemy in burst Attack: Charisma vs. Fortitude Hit: 2d6 + Charisma modifier thunder damage, and you push the target 1 square. Before you take any actions during your next turn, you can repeat the attack as a free action.
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3 years ago ::
May 03, 2010 - 8:03AM
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sounds right. It's strong potentially, but you will probably miss (targets fortitude) or run out of targets (burst 2 isn't all that wide a net) within the next two turns. Plus at most its just an extra 2d6 and one square of forced movement. Not really OP.
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3 years ago ::
May 03, 2010 - 8:14AM
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Apr 12, 2004
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Seems pretty strong to me. It's not just 2d6, it's 2d6+Cha+Enhancement+awesome thunder feats + etc. Plus whatever push-boosting abilities you have.
And it's not too hard for a bard to hang out in melee range.
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3 years ago ::
May 03, 2010 - 8:24AM
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Date Joined:
Dec 21, 2006
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As an encounter, it seems like it could become pretty dominant in tighter dungeons on a melee-oriented bard. Especially if you can manage to get surrounded first and follow the first burst with a move.
I took the PP for the flavor but, am relizing it is pretty solid.
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3 years ago ::
May 03, 2010 - 9:14AM
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Seems pretty strong to me. It's not just 2d6, it's 2d6+Cha+Enhancement+awesome thunder feats + etc. Plus whatever push-boosting abilities you have.
And it's not too hard for a bard to hang out in melee range.
I tricked out my dragon breath the same way. Still doesn't seem OP.
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3 years ago ::
May 03, 2010 - 9:19AM
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Apr 12, 2004
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But do you get to keep repeating your dragon breath every turn until you miss?
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3 years ago ::
May 03, 2010 - 1:45PM
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Date Joined:
Apr 25, 2002
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If I hit one target with this, I make the same burst attack the next round. I am assuming no matter how many hits, I get one attack the next round. If I hit with the successive attack, I would attack again until I eventually miss or have no targets?
It seems awfully powerful.
It does seem powerful, but remember that effects are known and this happens at the start of your turn.
i.e. opponents can simply move away from you and then you won't have any targets and so nothing happens. There may be some consequences for them moving away, but that does really limit the effectiveness(if you know you'll take mark damage or you'll potentially take this damage and cause problems for yourself the turn thereafter, it makes sense to take the mark damage and move on)
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3 years ago ::
May 03, 2010 - 2:19PM
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Date Joined:
Apr 12, 2004
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An adjacent enemy would probably take an opportunity attack getting out of range, though. What you need to do is trick out a fighter with this power 
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3 years ago ::
May 04, 2010 - 8:28AM
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Resounding Thunder+Enlarge Spell make this a yummy ally friendly burst 4, letting you get really nice board coverage. As far as effects being known, the targets only know effects on THEM. The ability to repeat the attack is an effect on YOU, so the targets would have no knowledge of an upcoming second attack until it happens. Mark of Storm would be nice in conjuction with this power to let you forgo the push and instead slide the targets closer to you. The hindering shield feat would work the let you slow the targets making escape even more difficult.
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3 years ago ::
May 04, 2010 - 9:28AM
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Resounding Thunder+Enlarge Spell make this a yummy ally friendly burst 4, letting you get really nice board coverage. As far as effects being known, the targets only know effects on THEM. The ability to repeat the attack is an effect on YOU, so the targets would have no knowledge of an upcoming second attack until it happens. Mark of Storm would be nice in conjuction with this power to let you forgo the push and instead slide the targets closer to you. The hindering shield feat would work the let you slow the targets making escape even more difficult.
while this is "true" your missing a few facts in your thinking
1- when you use a power on an enemy the enemy becomes aware of the power completely.
2- the last line does not really state it as an effect. it just is something that is out there in limbo and happening.
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