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Apr 7, 2010 -- 7:57AM, dslatimore wrote:

Here is my inquiry to CS:

dslatimore: "Interrupt: An immediate interrupt lets you jump in when a certain trigger condition arises, acting before the trigger resolves. If an interrupt invalidates a /triggering action/, that /action/ is lost. For example, an enemy makes a melee attack against you, but you use a power that lets you shift away as an immediate interrupt. If your enemy can no longer reach you, the enemy’s /attack action/ is lost.

What is a 'triggering action'? If I use a power that allows me to make a melee attack and then as an effect I can teleport 3 squares and as an immediate interrupt my target shifts away, what happens? I can no longer reach the enemy so the attack is lost. Do I also lose the ability to teleport 3 squares?

Basically, is the 'triggering action' considered the entire power I was using, or just the portion of the power that was unable to resolve?

On a related note, what happens if I am a battlemind, an enemy tries to shift from a square adjacent to me to another square adjacent to me, and then I interrupt with Blurred Step to shift into the square he was going to shift to? Did I invalidate his shift causing him to lose it? If he was just about to shift a total of 3 squares does he lose the whole move action or just 1 square of movement or can he change his mind and shift 3 squares in a different direction?

Any clarification would be helpful. "


Troy: "1. What is a 'triggering action'? If I use a power that allows me to make a melee attack and then as an effect I can teleport 3 squares and as an immediate interrupt my target shifts away, what happens? I can no longer reach the enemy so the attack is lost. Do I also lose the ability to teleport 3 squares?

A. It's any power with the word trigger, and then becomes triggered. If the teleport is an effect, you'll get the teleport regardless. Unfortunately, I can't make that an official answer without the power names.

2.1. Did I invalidate his shift causing him to lose it?

A. Yep.

2.2. just 1 square of movement

A. This one is correct, he'll lose that one shift of 3, and be able to shift 2 more.

Please let me know if you need anymore help!"

He seemed to misunderstand my question about 'triggering actions' and said that any action with the word trigger in it is a triggering action... which doesn't make sense.   However, the intent of the rest of his answers are clear.

Follow up to CS:

dslatimore: "It's probably my own fault for not including power names, but I just wanted to clarify the answer given for question 1:

1. As used in the definition of an immediate interrupt, what is a 'triggering action'? The definition says that if an interrupt invalidates a 'triggering action' the action is lost.

For instance, if I hit Enemy 1 with Battleborn Acuity and then Enemy 2 used Tactical Shift to allow Enemy 1 to shift away. Enemy 1 is now out of range, invalidating my attack. According to the rules, I lose the 'triggering action'. Is Battleborn Acuity considered the 'triggering action' (which would mean I also lose the Effect portion of the power), or is just the attack I made considered the 'triggering action' (meaning I would still get to use the effect portion of the power.

On a side note: even though the monster shifted away, would he take 1/2 damage due to the Miss portion of Battleborn Acuity, or is he out of range of the attack, so he doesn't even take the Miss damage?"

Troy: "Thank you for including power names, that helps a lot.

1. Interrupting a power with miss, effect (Entirely)?

A. Will void the entire power. It will still use it (Like counterspell from Magic). This will answer your follow up question as well.

Please let me know if you need anymore help!"

Laaaaaame.  In the above example, the entire effect of my daily is lost because the enemy moved out of range.   Edit: Not to mention, it uses up my daily for the day.

Apr 7, 2010 -- 9:21AM, zgrose wrote:

Well, if you can't attack it, you can't miss it. =)

I agree with that part, I think it's lame I lose the 'Effect' line as well, even though the 'Effect' isn't dependent on hitting/missing.

Edit: Though this ruling may apply to that other debate about peeps using only part of a power. (Like using the daily sword mage power that lets you teleport a bunch of times and make a bunch of attacks to just teleport really far and make no attacks.)

Apr 7, 2010 -- 9:25AM, Plaguescarred wrote:

See, this is coming specifically in contradiction to how Targeting What You Can't See handles an Out of Reach attack when picking a wrong square. IIRC, they call for a Miss. The attack is missed. But i am away from my books at this moment. Anyone can look up ?

If they call for a miss, would the target take half damage even though he may be 80 squares away?

Apr 7, 2010 -- 9:49AM, zgrose wrote:

You know, this raises an interesting use for Arcane Bolt. Heat seeking missile!

Target: One creature

Effect: The target takes force damage equal to 5 + your Intelligence modifier + the enhancement bonus of your implement.

 

Wouldn't you still need to target a square?  Hmm.