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1 year ago  ::  May 17, 2012 - 11:47AM #441
Armisael
Date Joined: Sep 17, 2007
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Two stat bumps and a dual stat race takes CON to +5.  And level 8 is +4 in half-level mods. That's 26. Tack on a couple trivial boosts and you're there. Probably a Rhythm Blade.
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1 year ago  ::  May 17, 2012 - 11:49AM #442
zelink551
Date Joined: Feb 26, 2011
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Maybe he took Elven Chain early?
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The Warlord, Or How to Wield a Barbarian One-Handed

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1 year ago  ::  May 17, 2012 - 11:58AM #443
LuthielValkire
Date Joined: Aug 31, 2011
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OK. So he's level 7 now, though. And his current Con is 19 (+4).

Let's see... Rythm Blade adds +2, right?

So I have:

Ability: 4
Lvl: 3
Studded Leather +2: 2+3 (5 or 6)
Heavy Shield: 2
Rythm Blade: 2

That give me 26 or 27...

Close. Damn, but that's super optimized for lvl 7.

I don't know. Maybe he leveled and I didn't realize. It's one of those games with variable experience. My buddy and I were forced to begin at lvl 5 while the mains are at least six and seven.

Oh and his HP is 86...

19+17+42 = 78
Toughness = 5

83...


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1 year ago  ::  May 17, 2012 - 12:01PM #444
GelatinousOctahedron
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I would see if he is level 8.  That would explain most of it.

I don't know if Alphaant is updating this guide much anymore, but I would like him to add my swampthing lifespirit warden build to it.
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1 year ago  ::  May 17, 2012 - 12:01PM #445
LuthielValkire
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Well, well. It looks like I'm a level 5 character playing with a level 8.

Ah, I'm having second edition flashbacks.
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1 year ago  ::  May 17, 2012 - 1:04PM #446
Armisael
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May 17, 2012 -- 12:01PM, GelatinousOctahedron wrote:

I would see if he is level 8.  That would explain most of it.

I don't know if Alphaant is updating this guide much anymore, but I would like him to add my swampthing lifespirit warden build to it.




He isn't and somebody needs to take over, tons of stuff needs updating.

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1 year ago  ::  May 17, 2012 - 1:08PM #447
GelatinousOctahedron
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I know he is up to date up to heroes of the feywild. 

I don't think he has done much of anything since then and there are a good bit of feats and themes that need to be added.
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1 year ago  ::  May 17, 2012 - 1:10PM #448
Armisael
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May 17, 2012 -- 1:08PM, GelatinousOctahedron wrote:

I know he is up to date up to heroes of the feywild. 

I don't think he has done much of anything since then and there are a good bit of feats and themes that need to be added.




It's not about content, it's about theory. The entire handbook has some pretty big holes in how it approaches Wardens.

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1 year ago  ::  May 17, 2012 - 2:19PM #449
zelink551
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Your theory is solid but contentious Arm :P
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The Warlord, Or How to Wield a Barbarian One-Handed

The Bookish Barbarian

Fardiz: RAI is fairly clear, but RAZ is different

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1 year ago  ::  May 17, 2012 - 2:26PM #450
Armisael
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May 17, 2012 -- 2:19PM, zelink551 wrote:

Your theory is solid but contentious Arm :P




Oh, certainly, but I think it's worth at least presenting it within the main Warden resource. I believe the handbook's inclination is overdefensive, and neglects the massive offensive firepower the Warden can bring to bear, which should be noted in the handbook, at least. Rating something like Wildblood Frenzy super low when it allows you to draw immense amounts of aggro is a bit weird.

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