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3 years ago  ::  Apr 21, 2010 - 7:20AM #61
Artoomis
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Apr 21, 2010 -- 6:48AM, zgrose wrote:

Why not? It just says you're taking damage. Contrast to the wording of the Paladin Blood of the Mighty power effect.

Effect: You take 5 damage, which can’t be reduced in any way. 




True, oddly enough.  Unlike similar effects from other classes, this can be reduced with resistance (all).

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3 years ago  ::  Apr 21, 2010 - 12:14PM #62
Blastarr
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So it seems!  Sorry, I always assumed it was like most other effects that cause damage to the character as a downside.
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3 years ago  ::  Apr 22, 2010 - 2:43AM #63
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@Blastarr: No harm done, i also misread stuff sometimes.

The spirit companion is already powerful. My DM always gets headaches, when attacking it or provoking some OAs are the monsters only options.

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3 years ago  ::  Apr 22, 2010 - 6:11AM #64
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Thanks!  I happened across it one day and decided to use it, because Bioshock is pretty cool and also I love the idea.  "Little Sister's Tea Party" by Kim-Kim over at Deviant Art.  You can find it here:
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"Mind you, that doesn't change the fact that the poor str-priest is cowering in the corner wondering what horrible thing it was that he did that makes daddy keep hitting him so much, but it's not like the nerf was senseless."
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3 years ago  ::  Apr 23, 2010 - 2:58PM #65
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Question: At which point did the Shaman MC feat change to allow you to use the at-will spirit OA attack power as an actual at-will and not an encounter power?  According to the builder, it's still an encounter power (and I firmly believe that's what it is supposed to be) but I have seen people who are using it as an at-will now.
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3 years ago  ::  Apr 23, 2010 - 7:09PM #66
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The march 2010 errata rewrote the third paragraph this way "Choose a Companion Spirit option. You gain the at-will shaman power associated that option, such as spirit’s shield or spirit’s fang.”  It was that paragraph that said it was an encounter power before.

I think that it is still supposed to an encounter power and that they were sloppy with the errata.
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3 years ago  ::  Apr 23, 2010 - 7:33PM #67
Artoomis
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Apr 23, 2010 -- 7:09PM, GelatinousOctahedron wrote:

The march 2010 errata rewrote the third paragraph this way "Choose a Companion Spirit option. You gain the at-will shaman power associated that option, such as spirit’s shield or spirit’s fang.”  It was that paragraph that said it was an encounter power before.

I think that it is still supposed to an encounter power and that they were sloppy with the errata.




That was not sloppy at all.  It's a Standard Action vs. the normal Minor Action.  That was plenty enough of a change, so they made it an At Will instead of Encounter.

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3 years ago  ::  Apr 23, 2010 - 8:03PM #68
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Except the reasoning they put in only mentions that they did this to add in the primal power options and makes no mention of changing the usage. 

And you can still take the sudden call feat which makes it a free action.
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3 years ago  ::  Apr 23, 2010 - 9:12PM #69
Undrhil
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No.  The Summon Spirit Companion power was always at-will.  I'm talking about the opportunity attack power which you also get (for instance, spirit's fangs or Spirit's prey.)  From reading the original wording of the feat and the new wording, it looks like they forgot to put the "as an encounter power" wording back to the end of that sentence. 

I'm sure they meant for it to be an encounter.  They nerfed Hero of Faith to not give a MC Avenger the oath of enmity power for the entire encounter plus it's benefits, so I'm thinking this is supposed to be an encounter also.  The summon spirit companion power is an at-will and is supposed to be an at-will.  I don't even complain that it's a standard action since (as was mentioned) I can always take Sudden Call to make it a free action if I really want to.
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3 years ago  ::  Apr 24, 2010 - 5:13AM #70
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I am not sure who you are referring to , but to be more clear summoning the SC through the feat has always been a standard action at will power.  It needs to be at will for those who take power swap spirit powers and for other reasonx, but can be made a free action through the sudden call feet.  The arrata only deals with the opportunity action powers.

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