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1 year ago ::
Jan 27, 2012 - 7:02PM
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I know that enemies can't move through the SC, but can the SC move through enemies?
That isn't directly and explicitly answered...
The spirit occupies its square. If it moves through a square occupied by an enemy, for some brief time they both occupy the same square. There are pretty severe restrictions on things occupying the same square so I would say - in the general case - no.
But that's my interpretation. Not necessarily RAI let alone RAW.
Also, if I take the feat below, would I be able to mark w/ my SC?
Defender of the Wild [Multiclass Warden]
Benefit: You gain training in one skill from the warden’s class skills list.
Once per encounter as a free action, you can mark each enemy adjacent to you until the end of your next turn.
Your spirit companion is not you; the feat does not say you can mark adjacent to your spirit companion. So that feat, by itself, does not give you the power to mark adjacent to your spirit companion.
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1 year ago ::
Jan 30, 2012 - 5:43AM
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You can only use powers with the "spirit" keyword through the SC. Anything else (like feats) must explicitly state, that it must or can originate from the SC.
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1 year ago ::
Jan 30, 2012 - 9:19AM
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I agree with warrl's answer. Its not explicit, but I think the answer is no, it can't go through enemy occupied squares. It can go over or around them with no problem if there is an empty space next to the enemy. A normal monster could block a doorway for instance if it was only 1 square cube entrance.
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1 year ago ::
Jan 30, 2012 - 12:01PM
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I agree with warrl's answer. Its not explicit, but I think the answer is no, it can't go through enemy occupied squares. It can go over or around them with no problem if there is an empty space next to the enemy. A normal monster could block a doorway for instance if it was only 1 square cube entrance.
From what I gathered, SC can move vertically, but does not have a flying speed, therefore, they should not be able to go up and over an opponent then, right (unless I'm totally misuderstanding something)?
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1 year ago ::
Jan 30, 2012 - 12:29PM
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They never said that explicitly can "fly" or really laid out the rules that clearly for this. It does not need to be supported by a solid surface and they did a shaman article in dragon 387 that said. "This means when it moves, it ignores difficult terrain and can move vertically and horizontally." I take that to mean it can move horizontally after it has moved vertically if you want it to.
CS used to say it couldn't move through the air long before that article came out, but that dramatically lowers that shaman's effectiveness at higher levels if you can't move it around in the air. Plus it can be trivially easy for some shaman builds (particularly animists) to summon the spirit companion to a different spot every round without using any extra actions so its not like letting it move in the air breaks anything. So RAI i think you can move it like it was "flying".
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1 year ago ::
Jan 30, 2012 - 12:34PM
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Thanks. That's very helpful.
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Jan 31, 2012 - 12:13AM
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Can a spirit companion see inside of an allies Cloud of Darkness. Since it isn't a creature it would seem that the effect line would not apply to it. The reason I ask is if the SC got opportunity attacks and could see in the cloud he could help attack people who try to exit the cloud, which is a permanent cloud sustained each round. That would be a help in doing damage inside the cloud. BUT .. I would imagine I need line of sight to summon my creature to a position inside the cloud, if so I could summon him outside the cloud and command him to go inside and next to someone maybe?
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1 year ago ::
Jan 31, 2012 - 6:56AM
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Can a spirit companion see inside of an allies Cloud of Darkness. Since it isn't a creature it would seem that the effect line would not apply to it. The reason I ask is if the SC got opportunity attacks and could see in the cloud he could help attack people who try to exit the cloud, which is a permanent cloud sustained each round. That would be a help in doing damage inside the cloud. BUT .. I would imagine I need line of sight to summon my creature to a position inside the cloud, if so I could summon him outside the cloud and command him to go inside and next to someone maybe?
Suggestions on this combo?
The spirit companion is a Conjuration. As such:
- Yes, you can summon it inside your ally's cloud of darkness.
- Yes, its opportunity action can be triggered and used. (Only the Opportunity Attack action has the "must be able to see the target" proviso; your spirit companion's Opportunity Action doesn't have that limitation).
However, since the shaman is the one making the attack through the spirit companion, he will take the penalty for attacking a creature with concealment if the target is inside the cloud of darkness. (Per the Conjuration keyword, you derermine line of sight from the shaman, not the spirit.)
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1 year ago ::
Jan 31, 2012 - 10:19AM
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Well, you have no line of sight from the Shaman into the cloud is the problem.
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Jan 31, 2012 - 12:13PM
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Well, you have no line of sight from the Shaman into the cloud is the problem.
The spirit companion Opportunity Action powers all have a trigger "a creature adjacent to the spirit companion moves away without shifting". No LOS required there.
So the shaman takes the -5 penalty for attacking someone with total concealment, as I said.
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