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Jun 12, 2011 -- 6:27PM, Undrhil wrote:

Jun 12, 2011 -- 2:51PM, RedSiegfried wrote:

Here's one.  With Spirit Summons you can have to SCs out there at the same time.  When the Shaman spends a move action can they then move both SCs or just one of them at a time?

Yes.  The power says that while you have multiple spirit companions, if you do something which applies to your spirit companion, it applies to both spirit companions.

Thanks for answering, but I don't see where either Spirit Summons or Call Spirit Compansion say anything like this at all.  Spirit Summons says that:
 
1. when you attack with a spirit power you choose which SC to use for the attack
2. when an effect applies to creatures adjacent to your SC, that effect applies to creatures adjacent to both SCs. 

There is nothing that says that when you do anything that applies to your SC that it then applies to both SCs.  To infer this from the sparse description of the power is a big jump in logic.  Take it a step further.  Does that mean if I move one SC six squares to the northwest that the other one also has to move six squares to the northwest?  If I dismiss one of the SCs do I then have to dismiss the other one?

Your example about the use of Healing Spirit is correct as far as I know though.

To be fair, my question is probably unanswerable ... I couldn't find anything anywhere in any book that would come close to answering it.  But opinions are appreciated.

Jun 30, 2011 -- 6:25PM, ecla wrote:

A couple places in this thread it is stated that a Spirit Companion can't grant Combat Advantage because CA is a 'condition'.  Looking at the list of conditions (RC p229) it doesn't look like CA actually is a condition like Blind, Dazed, etc.

So my question: if a power causes a target to grant combat advantage will it work against the SC?  Here's a specific real example from a monster:

Flitter (move; at-will)
The monster moves up to 4 squares, gains a +4 bonus to AC against opportunity attacks, and gains combat advantage against any target
that it ends its move adjacent to.

So if the monster uses Flitter and ends up adjacent to a SC, will it have combat advantage against it when it makes a melee attack?

Thanks in advance!    

   

Actually, no.  The SC has specific rules for when a power is used against it.  Is the power a ranged or melee attack?  If so, then the power may continue.  If not, then the power is ignored by the SC.  It does not take status effects or other effects from a power unless the power specifically targets conjurations or the spirit companion directly.

At the same time, though ... Flitter isn't targetting the SC.  The effect of the power is on the monster using it.  Notice that it says that the monster *gains* combat advantage against the target.  If it had said that the target grants combat advantage, then it wouldn't work, but the way it's worded, I think it actually would cause the monster to have combat advantage against the SC.