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3 years ago  ::  Mar 20, 2010 - 6:57PM #21
Nikolas-The-17th
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Mar 20, 2010 -- 6:55PM, Feyberry wrote:

Completely worthless book.  Psionics shouldn't have been brought back into the game.




I'm gonna have to ask you to retract your statement, all things are made better with psionics.

I bought the book for the psion class, I'm happy with it. I'm only disappointed in the missing elan race.

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 20, 2010 - 6:57PM #22
Oprah_Windfury
Date Joined: Jul 28, 2009
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Mar 20, 2010 -- 6:55PM, Feyberry wrote:

Completely worthless book.  Psionics shouldn't have been brought back into the game.



Not contributing at all to the conversation here, Fey.

PHB3 has Runepriest, Monk, Seeker, Hybrid Rules, Skill Powers, Superior Implements, New Feats, New Magic Items, New Epic Destinies, New Races, and a lot of fluff. The book is well worth its price, even if it is marred by having three classes that need some serious reworking.

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 20, 2010 - 6:58PM #23
cymbeline
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Mar 20, 2010 -- 6:40PM, Flipguarder wrote:

"Wizards! STOP TRYING TO MAKE MONEY! You should be catering to what I feel is needed then just stop releasing stuff until I get bored with the entire edition."

I don't see why Wizards releasing stuff that you don't see as necessary is a problem.




I'm all for Wizards making money, but releases like this will make me think carefully about the next time I buy a book.  Maybe you like PH3. Some people do, some don't. At D&D Game Day, I didn't meet anyone that thought PH3 was a worthwhile product. And every failed product puts pressure on the rest of the range and future products. You can't go back and correct it afterwards  if you release a core rulebook that players think is a waste.

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 20, 2010 - 6:58PM #24
Salla
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Mar 20, 2010 -- 6:52PM, cymbeline wrote:

But I have never heard a player say that they wanted a Ranger that was more primal. 




I have.  One of the first things someone complained about when 4e first came out was that the Ranger didn't have any 'nature spells', and many people on this board have complained about it prior to the existence of the Primal power source (where the Ranger could MC or Hybrid for powers).

Me, I always wondered why the Ranger had spells in the first place, so I didn't have that issue.

As far as other points go ... literature schmiterature.

Another day, another three or four entries to my Ignore List.
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3 years ago  ::  Mar 20, 2010 - 6:58PM #25
Salla
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Mar 20, 2010 -- 6:57PM, Oprah_Windfury wrote:

Mar 20, 2010 -- 6:55PM, Feyberry wrote:

Completely worthless book.  Psionics shouldn't have been brought back into the game.



Not contributing at all to the conversation here, Fey.




Par for the course, then.

Another day, another three or four entries to my Ignore List.
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3 years ago  ::  Mar 20, 2010 - 7:01PM #26
Nikolas-The-17th
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Who here denies that the Seeker reeks a little of the Arcane Archer?
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3 years ago  ::  Mar 20, 2010 - 7:01PM #27
Oprah_Windfury
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Mar 20, 2010 -- 6:58PM, Salla wrote:

Mar 20, 2010 -- 6:57PM, Oprah_Windfury wrote:

Mar 20, 2010 -- 6:55PM, Feyberry wrote:

Completely worthless book.  Psionics shouldn't have been brought back into the game.



Not contributing at all to the conversation here, Fey.




Par for the course, then.



HIYOOOOO!

*rimshot*

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 20, 2010 - 7:01PM #28
Herrozerro
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Mar 20, 2010 -- 6:58PM, cymbeline wrote:


I'm all for Wizards making money, but releases like this will make me think carefully about the next time I buy a book.  Maybe you like PH3. Some people do, some don't. At D&D Game Day, I didn't meet anyone that thought PH3 was a worthwhile product. And every failed product puts pressure on the rest of the range and future products. You can't go back and correct it afterwards  if you release a core rulebook that players think is a waste.




Ah, so my gameday, three full tables of happy people playing D&D with at least 7 or so buyers and not a single "aww man this book sucks" is worthless?

Just because you have an apathetic gaming group doesnt mean that they all are.

I find our game day to have been complete success.

Play whatever the **** you want.

Never Point a loaded party at a plot you are not willing to shoot.

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 20, 2010 - 7:01PM #29
Feyberry
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Mar 20, 2010 -- 6:57PM, Nikolas-The-17th wrote:

Mar 20, 2010 -- 6:55PM, Feyberry wrote:

Completely worthless book.  Psionics shouldn't have been brought back into the game.




I'm gonna have to ask you to retract your statement, all things are made better with psionics.

I bought the book for the psion class, I'm happy with it. I'm only disappointed in the missing elan race.


Never.  Psionics are the worst thing ever to add to any D&D game unless the setting is specifically Dark Sun.  It's the only D&D source that I will accept psionics in.  They should have printed all the psionic classes, feats, and monsters in a Dark Sun hardcover campaign setting book and left it there, rather than tainting the rest of the game.

Now I'm going to have to constantly tell whiny crybabies that no, they cannot play a psionic whatever and listen to their pathetic, peurile mewling as they try to convince me to let them.

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 20, 2010 - 7:03PM #30
Herrozerro
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Mar 20, 2010 -- 7:01PM, Feyberry wrote:

Now I'm going to have to constantly tell whiny crybabies that no, they cannot play a psionic whatever and listen to their pathetic, peurile mewling as they try to convince me to let them.




Is your player turnover rate that high?  That you have to "Constantly" tell people they cant play stuff?

Play whatever the **** you want.

Never Point a loaded party at a plot you are not willing to shoot.

Arcane Rhetoric. My Blog.
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