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3 years ago  ::  Mar 17, 2010 - 4:45PM #1
Alan-Kellogg
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Is it, or is it a miniatures game? Please expand on your reply.
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3 years ago  ::  Mar 17, 2010 - 4:46PM #2
Hocus-Smokus
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I do not envy you the flames you will receive for this.

It is an RPG that has a strong tie to minis. They are not always mutually exclusive.

D&D evolved from Chainmail, which was a minis game. OD&D was designed to be used with minis. 1E through 3E made it much easier to play without minis. 4E returned to its mini-usage roots. As for role-playing...you get out of it what you put into it. You can run 4E with little to no RP and almost 100% mini/tactical wargame/hack-n-slash. You can also run 4E with little to no combat and no mini use. It's up to you and your group.
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3 years ago  ::  Mar 17, 2010 - 4:50PM #3
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Mar 17, 2010 -- 4:46PM, Hocus-Smokus wrote:

They are not always mutually exclusive.




This.

Wonder how long this thread will last.

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 17, 2010 - 4:51PM #4
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It is a RPG.
Please don't troll with questions this pathetic. If you understand the criteria for something to be an RPG, 4E mets all of them, the same as every other edition.
The mini's part is irrelevent, as them being necessary is a false assumption. Actually that would mean it is not a mini's game since you do not need them.
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3 years ago  ::  Mar 17, 2010 - 4:51PM #5
zgrose
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An RPG played with minis?

How many RPGs are played without figures/maps these days anyway? 
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3 years ago  ::  Mar 17, 2010 - 4:59PM #6
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It is a role-playing board game.

If the computer game Diablo is considered an RPG then 4e (which has an infinite amount more role-playing) is certainly an RPG. 


The better question is: what is an RPG?
This is a big heady question (blog entry worthy) considering something as rigid and rail-heavy as a Final Fantasy game is an RPG.
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3 years ago  ::  Mar 17, 2010 - 5:06PM #7
Alan-Kellogg
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Okay then, is D&D 4e more an RPG or more miniatures?

I ask as someone who truly doesn't know and wants to learn.
One dagger is a plot point. A thousand daggers is inventory.

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 17, 2010 - 5:08PM #8
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Mar 17, 2010 -- 4:51PM, zgrose wrote:

An RPG played with minis?

How many RPGs are played without figures/maps these days anyway? 




Vampire/WoD, Hero, GURPS, Unisystem, Lot5R, Palladium, Mouse Guard, Cortex, Traveller, etc, etc.

You know, pretty much every game on the market except D&D and Warhammer. And possibly Battletech.

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 17, 2010 - 5:08PM #9
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Mar 17, 2010 -- 5:06PM, Alan-Kellogg wrote:

Okay then, is D&D 4e more an RPG or more miniatures?

I ask as someone who truly doesn't know and wants to learn.




See my first response. It answers this question nicely.

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 17, 2010 - 5:10PM #10
Alan-Kellogg
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Mar 17, 2010 -- 4:46PM, Hocus-Smokus wrote:

I do not envy you the flames you will receive for this.

It is an RPG that has a strong tie to minis. They are not always mutually exclusive.

D&D evolved from Chainmail, which was a minis game. OD&D was designed to be used with minis. 1E through 3E made it much easier to play without minis. 4E returned to its mini-usage roots. As for role-playing...you get out of it what you put into it. You can run 4E with little to no RP and almost 100% mini/tactical wargame/hack-n-slash. You can also run 4E with little to no combat and no mini use. It's up to you and your group.




Does the game encourage roleplaying?

One dagger is a plot point. A thousand daggers is inventory.

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