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Feb 14, 2010 -- 11:12AM, Marandahir wrote:

Actually, now I'm seeing Godborn/base class Demigod as a build of the Sorcerer rather than anything else.  It seems more like a Sorcerer concept than it's own class.

Explain.

Feb 14, 2010 -- 12:48PM, mkill wrote:

I really only want people to STFU about power sources already. It's the meta concept that has the least effect on the actual rules. Why is the Ranger not primal? Or rather, if he was, would it make any difference? No! Could the Necromancer be arcane? Sure! The bard martial? Why not?

Get. Over. It.

If we get new classes, we need interesting concepts. If and how that class fits in the source/role grid is secondary, important is that the class is unique in both flavor and mechanics. Stop looking at the damn grid, and start thinking about which fantasy archetypes (or D&D archetypes) aren't covered by the current ruleset.

Quoted for truth.

Despite the fact that Arcane has six classes, I can imagine many more Arcane classes yet. How about a controller which uses magical technology like an artificer (instead of a leader)? How about a demonologist? Or a witch?

I like the Shepherd with a staff and a sling mentioned before, and I like the Demigod Hercules idea. My own preference is still for the Friar Tuck archetype: striking and healing with a staff and a keg of ale.

Feb 14, 2010 -- 12:48PM, mkill wrote:

If we get new classes, we need interesting concepts. If and how that class fits in the source/role grid is secondary, important is that the class is unique in both flavor and mechanics. Stop looking at the damn grid, and start thinking about which fantasy archetypes (or D&D archetypes) aren't covered by the current ruleset.

Indeed.

If you ask me, both Martial and Psionic are done; I can't think of any Martial or Psionic concept that couldn't be integrated into one of the existing classes in those sources. Also, after we get Necromancer, Hexblade and Beguiler, I think we will be done with Shadow as well.

We don't need to have the same number of classes in each power source, we don't need a class of each role in every power source, quite simply, we don't *need* any new classes.

I want to tell the story of a persecuted Witch or of a world wise Archivist and I don't need a new class to do that, I could just use Cleric for either, but if they had their own class it make the Archivist and the Witch identities stronger and also make the Cleric's identity stronger. 

I don't like it when WotC makes a new class just for newness sake, I don't care how cool it's mechanics are, I want each class to have purpose and to offer us something that's time tested inspiring that empowers our creativity not distract us from creativity.

Classes like Seeker and Runepriest IMO are way too specific, we've already gotten to a point where you can't make a class that doesn't step on another class' toes, so shouldn't we be focused on making classes that have a strong enough identity of their own that people wouldn't need to compare them to the classes they resemble?