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3 years ago  ::  Jan 27, 2010 - 9:00AM #1
Undrhil
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Terra's a Changeling and is very good at what she does.  She loves to boss people around (Commander's Strike and Claws of the Eagle for at-wills) and is really designed around getting her allies motivated to attack the bad guys.  (Provacative Order as Encounter and Great Watcher Spirit as Daily).  Now that she's level 2, she's taken Knight's Move, so she can even get them into position before telling them to hit something.

She is the consumate Dominatrix (leather armor? Check.  Whip?  Well, I'm working on that part... she's got a longspear right now) and likes to scream and yell at her allies when telling them what to do.  She also like to scream and yell at the bad guys when they get near her.

Her spirit companion is rudely ignored most of the time, until she needs it for Healing Spirits, then she will make use of it with Claws of the Eagle.  Until then, she'll get near an ally and use Commander's Strike.  Now that she has Knight's Move, she's not above healing a dying ally, telling them to stand up and then making them charge back into battle (minor action heal, knight's move move, provacative order standard.)

None of her attacks, currently, involve her lifting a d20 at all.  She is all about bossing people around and keeping them alive (or trying to, in some cases.)

EDIT (08/09): Here is the Character Builder summary for Terra at level 8.

At level 4, she retrained away from Martial Readiness in favor of the additional healing of Vigorous Spirits and to take the Artificer MC feat.  She also swapped out Commander's Strike for Direct the Strike, which is more to her liking (no need to get right into melee combat now.)  You will notice that her powers are more and more focused on getting her allies to make more attacks per round, which works out nicely when it does work.  Her new level 5 daily should be a nice addition to her attack list. 

At level 6, she took Spur the Pack for her Shaman utility power.  At level 7, she retrained a feat to be a Ritual Caster and bought Tensor's Floating Disk.  But, at level, 8, she retrained out of Ritual Caster because being prone on a Tensor's Floating Disk sucked, to be quite honest.  I enjoyed the role-playing aspect, but in LFR, that just doesn't fly all the time.  Maybe in a homebrew game....

Note that this build is her current build at level 8.  Since she hasn't played in any mods since she made level 08, this is all still up for changes.  I'm considering MCing her to Psion or Ardent currently, since the new Psionic Power book has some nifty new paragon paths which fit this build quite nicely (one is a Thrallherd, which means she has a thrall to do her bidding and the other is a "lazy Ardent" paragon path where you tell your allies to make attacks with both the encounter and daily power.  Nice. 

She bought a Dragontooth Shield and took Ninth Legion Student, so she can use Direct the Strike in place of a MBA on opp. attacks. 

EDIT (04/14/11) - Terra is now level 11 and has taken up the Catalyst paragon path.  She has exactly *one* power which she has to make attack rolls on, which allows her to qualify for the action point ability of her paragon path.  Mindlink Strike is a level 7 Ardent power which normally allows an ally to make an attack but when augmented 2 points, allows the Ardent to make a Close Burst 1 attack and then allow allies to attack from there.  I think it works out alright for Terra but I wish this paragon path had just stuck to being a Catalyst and let the action point ability grant an attack or offer some bonus healing or something.  I am updating the build in the spoiler block to her latest version.  ** NOTE: I am still using the original off-line character builder.  **

Terra, Shaman|Warlord, Level 11 Show


====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ======
Terra, level 11
Changeling, Shaman|Warlord, Catalyst
Companion Spirit (Hybrid): Watcher Spirit (Hybrid)
Hybrid Shaman: Hybrid Shaman Will
Warlord Leadership: Battlefront Leader (Hybrid)
Hybrid Warlord: Hybrid Warlord Will
Hybrid Talent: Commanding Presence (Hybrid)
Commanding Presence (Hybrid): Insightful Presence (Hybrid)
Background: Impiltur (Impiltur Benefit)


FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 13, Con 13, Dex 9, Int 16, Wis 21, Cha 14.


STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 12, Con 10, Dex 8, Int 13, Wis 18, Cha 11.



AC: 26 Fort: 20 Reflex: 22 Will: 25
HP: 83 Surges: 8 Surge Value: 20


TRAINED SKILLS
Perception +15, Nature +15, Arcana +13, Bluff +18


UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +1, Diplomacy +7, Dungeoneering +10, Endurance +3, Heal +10, History +8, Insight +14, Intimidate +7, Religion +8, Stealth +1, Streetwise +7, Thievery +1, Athletics +3


FEATS
Level 1: Hybrid Talent
Level 2: Fervent Talent
Level 4: Psionic Dabbler
Level 6: Ninth Legion Student
Level 8: Focused Mind (retrained to Armor Proficiency: Hide at Level 11)
Level 10: Battle Caster Defense
Level 11: Fight On


POWERS
Hybrid at-will 1: Direct the Strike
Hybrid at-will 1: Claws of the Eagle
Hybrid encounter 1: Powerful Warning
Hybrid daily 1: Great Watcher Spirit
Hybrid utility 2: Knight's Move
Hybrid encounter 3: Sly Fox Spirit
Hybrid daily 5: Destructive Surprise
Hybrid utility 6: Primal Investiture
Hybrid encounter 7: Friendly Fire (retrained to Mindlink Strike at Psionic Dabbler)
Hybrid daily 9: Warlord's Recovery
Hybrid utility 10: Spirit Summons


ITEMS
Adventurer's Kit, Climber's Kit, Potion of Healing (heroic tier), Amulet of Protection +2, Diamond Cincture (heroic tier), Alchemical Reagents (Arcana) (40), Dragontooth Shield Heavy Shield (heroic tier), Vengeful Spirit Totem +2, Resplendent Gloves (heroic tier), Resplendent Boots (heroic tier), Resplendent Circlet (heroic tier), Resplendent Cloak +2, Veteran's Earthhide Armor +3
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3 years ago  ::  Jan 27, 2010 - 10:19AM #2
GeneralHenry
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if she doesn't make any attack rolls or damage rolls there's no reason not to use a whip.
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3 years ago  ::  Jan 27, 2010 - 1:03PM #3
Undrhil
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Jan 27, 2010 -- 10:19AM, GeneralHenry wrote:

if she doesn't make any attack rolls or damage rolls there's no reason not to use a whip.




Yeah.  I know ... she doesn't need proficiency in order to wield it and use the reach property.  I was using the longspear because of the possible use of it as an Alfsair Longspear +x for use with the shaman powers.  But she can wield a spear as an Alfsair Spear and a whip and it would work the same.

I have a Genasi Warlord wielding a longsword and a whip .. she doesn't have whip proficiency either. 

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3 years ago  ::  Feb 07, 2010 - 8:16PM #4
Kaviyd3
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I would start her out with a whip -- she doesn't need the longspear until she actually obtains a totemic or alfsair spear with reach.  There are a couple of things I am trying to recall about this concept of a character who never attacks -- How far can you advance her before she has to take a power that requires her to attack?  Before that point, isn't her racial power wasted? 
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3 years ago  ::  Feb 07, 2010 - 11:03PM #5
Undrhil
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Well, I think her level 5 daily has to be a Warlord daily at this point and none of them are Effect: only, so it'll be at that point that she has to start making attack rolls, which sucks cause of his abysmal STR.  But I might be able to sacrifice and retrain her level 1 daily to be a Warlock daily so that she can get a decent level 5 daily with a WIS based attack.

:: Shrugs ::

I haven't had a chance to play her since she hit level 2 and took Knight's Move, so I'm not sure where to go next with her.

Also, my strategies tend to play around treasure picks in LFR, so if I find an item which gives me a new angle to look at her build, I might retrain some stuff at her next level up.
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3 years ago  ::  Feb 08, 2010 - 9:01AM #6
Kaviyd3
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I got a chance to put such a character together in the Character Builder last night.  I actually found a level 5 daily with no attack roll -- I think it might have been Scent of Victory.  There was a hole at 7th level, but multiclassing into wizard, taking novice power, and picking up Arcane Bolt and Storm Pillar took care of that.  I got stuck at 11th level -- there is currently no paragon path whose 11th level encounter power does not require an attack roll.  Paragon hybrid or paragon multiclassing would do the trick if we got a few more non-attack roll powers....
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3 years ago  ::  Feb 09, 2010 - 1:00PM #7
GeneralHenry
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I'd say traveler's harlequin for PP yes the at-will is an attack roll, but it's based on highest stat, no weapon, no impliment
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3 years ago  ::  Feb 09, 2010 - 1:24PM #8
GeneralHenry
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level 20 with only one attack roll, int as a secondary stat Show

====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ======

level 20

Gnome, Shaman|Warlord, Traveler's Harlequin

Companion Spirit (Hybrid): Stalker Spirit (Hybrid)

Hybrid Shaman: Hybrid Shaman Fortitude

Hybrid Warlord: Hybrid Warlord Will

Traveler's Unpredictable Power: Traveler's Unpredictable Power (Daily)

Background: Eldritch Harlequin (Eldritch Harlequin Benefit)


FINAL ABILITY SCORES

Str 9, Con 17, Dex 14, Int 23, Wis 17, Cha 13.


STARTING ABILITY SCORES

Str 8, Con 14, Dex 13, Int 16, Wis 14, Cha 10.



AC: 34 Fort: 28 Reflex: 31 Will: 28

HP: 124 Surges: 10 Surge Value: 31


TRAINED SKILLS

Nature +18, Athletics +14, Bluff +17, Arcana +23


UNTRAINED SKILLS

Acrobatics +12, Diplomacy +11, Dungeoneering +13, Endurance +13, Heal +13, History +16, Insight +13, Intimidate +11, Perception +13, Religion +16, Stealth +14, Streetwise +11, Thievery +13


FEATS

Learned Spellcaster: Ritual Caster

Level 1: Learned Spellcaster

Level 4: Novice Power


POWERS

Hybrid at-will 1: Commander's Strike

Hybrid at-will 1: Claws of the Eagle

Traveler's Unpredictable Power (Daily): Exhorted Counterattack

Hybrid encounter 1: Provocative Order

Hybrid daily 1: Great Watcher Spirit

Hybrid utility 2: Knight's Move

Hybrid encounter 3: Sly Fox Spirit

Hybrid daily 5: Scent of Victory

Hybrid utility 6: Sudden Restoration

Hybrid encounter 7: Hammer of the Grasping Tides (retrained to Radiant Pillar at Novice Power)

Hybrid daily 9: Warlord's Recovery

Hybrid utility 10: Primal Gust

Hybrid utility 16: Warlord's Banner


ITEMS

Whip, Magic Anathema Armor +5, Torc of Power Preservation +4

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3 years ago  ::  Feb 09, 2010 - 6:17PM #9
Kaviyd3
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I got my dominatrix all the way to 19th level by giving her the Windrise Ports background, multiclassing into wizard and cleric, and taking the Divine Oracle paragon path.  Her 11th level encounter attack power has no attack roll, so she is not forced to take a power with an attack roll until 20th level.  Now if I can find a way to swap out that paragon daily attack power, I might be able to get her all the way to 30th level.  One problem, of course, is that at this point I have used up my multiclass options.  I think it might not be too much longer before we can take this concept all the way to 30th level.
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3 years ago  ::  Feb 17, 2010 - 8:50AM #10
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With the release of Martial Power 2, we may now have options for getting a non-attacking character all the way to 30th level.  The addition of another non-attack at-will power for warlords makes it possible for the character to be a human shaman|warlord.  The Adroit Explorer and Paragon Hybrid paragon paths can be set up to give no attack powers.  I will have to wait until I get my own copy of the book to see what I can put together.
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