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3 years ago  ::  Jan 11, 2010 - 8:13PM #11
GeneralHenry
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how I awesome druid

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3 years ago  ::  Jan 11, 2010 - 8:15PM #12
Skrimshaw
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I heart Druids
also, I club seals
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3 years ago  ::  Jan 13, 2010 - 11:11AM #13
alien270
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Wow, I figured that creating an optimization guide was time consuming but just how time consuming it is still surprised me.  I'd like to thank everyone who has created one of these for all of their hard work!

As for this guide, it's pretty much "1st level ready," which was my first goal.  I'm still not sure what I'm going to cover in terms of racial feats though; to start off I'll probably pick a handful of optimal Druid races and then comment on just the feats that are worthwhile.  At least until I have more base knowledge down on the rest of the guide.

Bring on the comments!
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3 years ago  ::  Jan 13, 2010 - 11:41AM #14
Alanlichen
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Stampede might deserve to be blue when coupled with that boots of adept charger.
Another hidden value of Githzerai is that if they could MC monk they would never worry about HS and HP as a predator. Monk's main stat seems to be dex too, which is nice.
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3 years ago  ::  Jan 13, 2010 - 12:17PM #15
kilpatds
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Could you find a darker gold color?  I can't read that one.
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3 years ago  ::  Jan 13, 2010 - 12:40PM #16
alien270
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Jan 13, 2010 -- 11:41AM, Alanlichen wrote:

Stampede might deserve to be blue when coupled with that boots of adept charger.
Another hidden value of Githzerai is that if they could MC monk they would never worry about HS and HP as a predator. Monk's main stat seems to be dex too, which is nice.



Thanks, I'll start some notes in the multiclassing section.  Keep in mind though, Zuoken's Centering is a Paragon tier feat so Predators still have to deal with low surges for at least 10 levels.  Also, I don't think that the Monk's MC feat has been released yet, but PHB3 isn't too far away...

Jan 13, 2010 -- 12:17PM, kilpatds wrote:

Could you find a darker gold color?  I can't read that one.



Thy will be done.  Hope that helps.

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3 years ago  ::  Jan 13, 2010 - 4:35PM #17
Alanlichen
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One thing about storm spike is its potential to apply the windrunner(eb dragonmark pp)'s con damage twice (since it applies to damage instead of damage rolls). Not too great but good enough for a guardian summoner who want to stay behind.

Also need mentioning is invoker pp Devoted Orator, which could make swarming locust a busrt 4 thunder power with resounding thunder and a push one. If you could get windrise, then swarming locusts could be used to coupled with momentun to push 2 and prone. Or you could use it with mark of storm and silde two and prone. Although invokers themselves would better at this.
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3 years ago  ::  Jan 13, 2010 - 7:11PM #18
alien270
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Jan 13, 2010 -- 4:35PM, Alanlichen wrote:


Also need mentioning is invoker pp Devoted Orator, which could make swarming locust a busrt 4 thunder power with resounding thunder and a push one. If you could get windrise, then swarming locusts could be used to coupled with momentun to push 2 and prone. Or you could use it with mark of storm and silde two and prone. Although invokers themselves would better at this.



Good catch!  You have to wait until level 16 to pull this off, but it's a pretty potent upgrade to Swarming Locusts!  Also, Windrise Ports isn't necessary if you hybrid Druid and Invoker and take the Fighter MC.  I would only recommend this for Humans though, because other races only get 1 Druid power as a Hybrid and Savage Rend or Grasping Claws are both better choices in general than Swarming Locusts.

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3 years ago  ::  Jan 13, 2010 - 9:49PM #19
alien270
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Hey all, I need some formatting advice.  I listed the feats in descending order by color, so that all of the sky blue feats were at the top, then came the blue feats, etc.  As I was looking over the work that I just did for the Heroic tier powers, I noticed that I did the same thing for level 2 and onward (the stuff that I worked on tonight).  The level 1 stuff (at-wills, encounters, and dailies) are all listed alphabetically, with the colors all mixed up. 

I definitely like the descending colors for the feats since the lists are so long, but I'm not sure how I feel about the (much shorter) power lists.  Any thoughts? 
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3 years ago  ::  Jan 13, 2010 - 10:04PM #20
Dirge-Overdrive
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I think it's great.  I prefer the descending order to the alphabetical.
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