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2 years ago  ::  Feb 03, 2011 - 12:48PM #1201
borg285
Date Joined: Jan 23, 2008
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Jan 31, 2011 -- 11:55AM, jonathan_sicari wrote:


AT-WILL DPR:
Main Hand dpr 16.575 = (.85 x 17.5) + (.05 x 34)
Dual Weapon dpr 13.475 = .9((.8 x 15.5) + (.05 x 21.5))
At-Will DPR = 30.05

Bravo at will DPR: (+2 to hit and damage "prey" until end of next turn as a minor)
main hand DPR 19.35 = (.9 x 19.5) + (.05 x 36)
DWA DPR 16.07875 = .95((.9 x 17.5) + (.05 x 23.5))
AT-will Bravo DPR = 35.42875

Bravo Nova with Action point (can be followed with Bravo AT-will DPR next round if target is not dead):
At-will Bravo DPR + Bravo Main Hand DPR (AP) = 54.77875



nova candidate added without complaint due to the small number of candidates.
Your at-will candidate I feel needs more defense for why he can get Combat Advantage to count it as at-will.  I see an encounter power, which will last possibly 2 rounds(shift remains in darkness, move provokes MBA), and a daily power.  If Superior reflexes does anything please remind me, as I'm away from my books.  If you don't explain why you can get CA, then the (CA) marker on your DPR will remain to signify that you are assuming you'll work like a dog to get CA to achieve this accuracy.

DPR King Candidates 3.0
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You're fired          : 1 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .2 KPR
Fair Striker          : 2 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .4 KPR
Highly Optimized : 3 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .6 KPR
Nerfbat please     : 4 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .8 KPR
It's OVER 9000!!!!!: 5 Kills Per 5 Rounds = 1+ KPR

DPR?  KPR?  KP4R?  Bless you Show

DPR = Damage Per round ~= Chance to hit * damage on a hit
KPR = Kills Per Round.  1 Kill = 8*Level+24 damage
       = DPR/(8*level+24)
KPNR = Kills Per N Rounds.  How many standards can you kill in N rounds?
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2 years ago  ::  Feb 03, 2011 - 2:31PM #1202
Taikishi
Date Joined: Jan 22, 2011
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Langeweile's L16 thief only does 66.825 DPR. He doesn't meet the requirements for his Paragon path and it is his Paragon path that is giving him a third attack.
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2 years ago  ::  Feb 03, 2011 - 2:34PM #1203
Taikishi
Date Joined: Jan 22, 2011
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Second attack, rather. Either way, my point still stands
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2 years ago  ::  Feb 03, 2011 - 2:42PM #1204
borg285
Date Joined: Jan 23, 2008
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I will cross out the thief's paragon entries till he meets the reqs and recalculates
DPR King Candidates 3.0
How much damage should I shoot for? Show

You're fired          : 1 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .2 KPR
Fair Striker          : 2 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .4 KPR
Highly Optimized : 3 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .6 KPR
Nerfbat please     : 4 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .8 KPR
It's OVER 9000!!!!!: 5 Kills Per 5 Rounds = 1+ KPR

DPR?  KPR?  KP4R?  Bless you Show

DPR = Damage Per round ~= Chance to hit * damage on a hit
KPR = Kills Per Round.  1 Kill = 8*Level+24 damage
       = DPR/(8*level+24)
KPNR = Kills Per N Rounds.  How many standards can you kill in N rounds?
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2 years ago  ::  Feb 03, 2011 - 2:49PM #1205
Melos
Date Joined: Nov 7, 2005
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He could hold a Mage's Weapon Khopesh in his other hand.
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2 years ago  ::  Feb 03, 2011 - 4:07PM #1206
Taikishi
Date Joined: Jan 22, 2011
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I'm not really sure that works.

I built a monk in the old character builder and a thief in the new character builder since both are proficient in specific weapons, including daggers. I made both multiclass fighters and gave them +1 Mage's Weapon Khopeshes. In both the original character builder and the online builder, neither gave me the option to take Kulkor Battlearm Student until I gave the character a proficiency in Khopesh.
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2 years ago  ::  Feb 04, 2011 - 8:40AM #1207
borg285
Date Joined: Jan 23, 2008
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Feb 3, 2011 -- 4:07PM, Taikishi wrote:

I'm not really sure that works.

I built a monk in the old character builder and a thief in the new character builder since both are proficient in specific weapons, including daggers. I made both multiclass fighters and gave them +1 Mage's Weapon Khopeshes. In both the original character builder and the online builder, neither gave me the option to take Kulkor Battlearm Student until I gave the character a proficiency in Khopesh.



KULKOR BATTLEARM STUDENT [LESSER STYLE] Prerequisite: Fighter, ranger, rogue, or warlord; proficiency with any axe, hammer, or mace that has the versatile property



Emphasis mine
I believe that a mage's kopesh works here.


DPR King Candidates 3.0
How much damage should I shoot for? Show

You're fired          : 1 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .2 KPR
Fair Striker          : 2 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .4 KPR
Highly Optimized : 3 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .6 KPR
Nerfbat please     : 4 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .8 KPR
It's OVER 9000!!!!!: 5 Kills Per 5 Rounds = 1+ KPR

DPR?  KPR?  KP4R?  Bless you Show

DPR = Damage Per round ~= Chance to hit * damage on a hit
KPR = Kills Per Round.  1 Kill = 8*Level+24 damage
       = DPR/(8*level+24)
KPNR = Kills Per N Rounds.  How many standards can you kill in N rounds?
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2 years ago  ::  Feb 04, 2011 - 9:16AM #1208
jonathan_sicari
Date Joined: Sep 1, 2008
Posts: 3,336

Feb 3, 2011 -- 12:48PM, borg285 wrote:

Jan 31, 2011 -- 11:55AM, jonathan_sicari wrote:


AT-WILL DPR:
Main Hand dpr 16.575 = (.85 x 17.5) + (.05 x 34)
Dual Weapon dpr 13.475 = .9((.8 x 15.5) + (.05 x 21.5))
At-Will DPR = 30.05

Bravo at will DPR: (+2 to hit and damage "prey" until end of next turn as a minor)
main hand DPR 19.35 = (.9 x 19.5) + (.05 x 36)
DWA DPR 16.07875 = .95((.9 x 17.5) + (.05 x 23.5))
AT-will Bravo DPR = 35.42875

Bravo Nova with Action point (can be followed with Bravo AT-will DPR next round if target is not dead):
At-will Bravo DPR + Bravo Main Hand DPR (AP) = 54.77875



nova candidate added without complaint due to the small number of candidates.
Your at-will candidate I feel needs more defense for why he can get Combat Advantage to count it as at-will.  I see an encounter power, which will last possibly 2 rounds(shift remains in darkness, move provokes MBA), and a daily power.  If Superior reflexes does anything please remind me, as I'm away from my books.  If you don't explain why you can get CA, then the (CA) marker on your DPR will remain to signify that you are assuming you'll work like a dog to get CA to achieve this accuracy.




Superior Reflexes is +2 Reflex defense and Combat advantage for the first turn. Requires Dex or Int 15.

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2 years ago  ::  Feb 04, 2011 - 10:08AM #1209
Taikishi
Date Joined: Jan 22, 2011
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Posting from phone so I cannot quote your post, Borg.

I know what the feat says. I read it three times, along with Mage Weapon. However, I tried two different tools - one we know to be very buggy and another that posters on this board seem to praise. Neither allowed access to the feat to the two classes that have proficiency in Daggers (monk mc with fighter in the old builder and thief in the new) but not Simple weapons until I gave the character proficiency with khopesh. This was true even with a Mage weapon Khopesh equipped.

I would suggest asking CS whether or not a Mage weapon khopesh qualifies for access to the feat assuming for thieves and mc monks.
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2 years ago  ::  Feb 04, 2011 - 1:01PM #1210
Veleria
Date Joined: Mar 19, 2010
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MAge's weapon does not grant you a proficiency, it just alters the enchanted weapon to be useable with dagger proficiency. You are implying every character in the game qualifies for kulkor feats and pp, they do not.
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