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 2 years ago  ::  Feb 03, 2011 - 12:48PM #1201 borg285 Date Joined: Jan 23, 2008 Posts: 2,868 Jan 31, 2011 -- 11:55AM, jonathan_sicari wrote:AT-WILL DPR:Main Hand dpr 16.575 = (.85 x 17.5) + (.05 x 34)Dual Weapon dpr 13.475 = .9((.8 x 15.5) + (.05 x 21.5))At-Will DPR = 30.05Bravo at will DPR: (+2 to hit and damage "prey" until end of next turn as a minor)main hand DPR 19.35 = (.9 x 19.5) + (.05 x 36)DWA DPR 16.07875 = .95((.9 x 17.5) + (.05 x 23.5))AT-will Bravo DPR = 35.42875Bravo Nova with Action point (can be followed with Bravo AT-will DPR next round if target is not dead): At-will Bravo DPR + Bravo Main Hand DPR (AP) = 54.77875nova candidate added without complaint due to the small number of candidates.Your at-will candidate I feel needs more defense for why he can get Combat Advantage to count it as at-will.  I see an encounter power, which will last possibly 2 rounds(shift remains in darkness, move provokes MBA), and a daily power.  If Superior reflexes does anything please remind me, as I'm away from my books.  If you don't explain why you can get CA, then the (CA) marker on your DPR will remain to signify that you are assuming you'll work like a dog to get CA to achieve this accuracy. DPR King Candidates 3.0How much damage should I shoot for? Show You're fired          : 1 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .2 KPRFair Striker          : 2 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .4 KPRHighly Optimized : 3 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .6 KPRNerfbat please     : 4 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .8 KPRIt's OVER 9000!!!!!: 5 Kills Per 5 Rounds = 1+ KPRDPR?  KPR?  KP4R?  Bless you Show DPR = Damage Per round ~= Chance to hit * damage on a hitKPR = Kills Per Round.  1 Kill = 8*Level+24 damage       = DPR/(8*level+24)KPNR = Kills Per N Rounds.  How many standards can you kill in N rounds? Quick Reply Cancel Quote message in reply? 2 years ago  ::  Feb 03, 2011 - 2:31PM #1202 Taikishi Date Joined: Jan 22, 2011 Posts: 213 Langeweile's L16 thief only does 66.825 DPR. He doesn't meet the requirements for his Paragon path and it is his Paragon path that is giving him a third attack. Quick Reply Cancel Quote message in reply? 2 years ago  ::  Feb 03, 2011 - 2:34PM #1203 Taikishi Date Joined: Jan 22, 2011 Posts: 213 Second attack, rather. Either way, my point still stands Quick Reply Cancel Quote message in reply? 2 years ago  ::  Feb 03, 2011 - 2:42PM #1204 borg285 Date Joined: Jan 23, 2008 Posts: 2,868 I will cross out the thief's paragon entries till he meets the reqs and recalculates DPR King Candidates 3.0How much damage should I shoot for? Show You're fired          : 1 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .2 KPRFair Striker          : 2 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .4 KPRHighly Optimized : 3 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .6 KPRNerfbat please     : 4 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .8 KPRIt's OVER 9000!!!!!: 5 Kills Per 5 Rounds = 1+ KPRDPR?  KPR?  KP4R?  Bless you Show DPR = Damage Per round ~= Chance to hit * damage on a hitKPR = Kills Per Round.  1 Kill = 8*Level+24 damage       = DPR/(8*level+24)KPNR = Kills Per N Rounds.  How many standards can you kill in N rounds? Quick Reply Cancel Quote message in reply? 2 years ago  ::  Feb 03, 2011 - 2:49PM #1205 Melos Date Joined: Nov 7, 2005 Posts: 1,444 He could hold a Mage's Weapon Khopesh in his other hand. Quick Reply Cancel Quote message in reply? 2 years ago  ::  Feb 03, 2011 - 4:07PM #1206 Taikishi Date Joined: Jan 22, 2011 Posts: 213 I'm not really sure that works.I built a monk in the old character builder and a thief in the new character builder since both are proficient in specific weapons, including daggers. I made both multiclass fighters and gave them +1 Mage's Weapon Khopeshes. In both the original character builder and the online builder, neither gave me the option to take Kulkor Battlearm Student until I gave the character a proficiency in Khopesh. Quick Reply Cancel Quote message in reply? 2 years ago  ::  Feb 04, 2011 - 8:40AM #1207 borg285 Date Joined: Jan 23, 2008 Posts: 2,868 Feb 3, 2011 -- 4:07PM, Taikishi wrote:I'm not really sure that works.I built a monk in the old character builder and a thief in the new character builder since both are proficient in specific weapons, including daggers. I made both multiclass fighters and gave them +1 Mage's Weapon Khopeshes. In both the original character builder and the online builder, neither gave me the option to take Kulkor Battlearm Student until I gave the character a proficiency in Khopesh.KULKOR BATTLEARM STUDENT [LESSER STYLE] Prerequisite: Fighter, ranger, rogue, or warlord; proficiency with any axe, hammer, or mace that has the versatile propertyEmphasis mineI believe that a mage's kopesh works here. DPR King Candidates 3.0How much damage should I shoot for? Show You're fired          : 1 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .2 KPRFair Striker          : 2 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .4 KPRHighly Optimized : 3 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .6 KPRNerfbat please     : 4 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .8 KPRIt's OVER 9000!!!!!: 5 Kills Per 5 Rounds = 1+ KPRDPR?  KPR?  KP4R?  Bless you Show DPR = Damage Per round ~= Chance to hit * damage on a hitKPR = Kills Per Round.  1 Kill = 8*Level+24 damage       = DPR/(8*level+24)KPNR = Kills Per N Rounds.  How many standards can you kill in N rounds? Quick Reply Cancel Quote message in reply? 2 years ago  ::  Feb 04, 2011 - 9:16AM #1208 jonathan_sicari Date Joined: Sep 1, 2008 Posts: 3,336 Feb 3, 2011 -- 12:48PM, borg285 wrote:Jan 31, 2011 -- 11:55AM, jonathan_sicari wrote:AT-WILL DPR:Main Hand dpr 16.575 = (.85 x 17.5) + (.05 x 34)Dual Weapon dpr 13.475 = .9((.8 x 15.5) + (.05 x 21.5))At-Will DPR = 30.05Bravo at will DPR: (+2 to hit and damage "prey" until end of next turn as a minor)main hand DPR 19.35 = (.9 x 19.5) + (.05 x 36)DWA DPR 16.07875 = .95((.9 x 17.5) + (.05 x 23.5))AT-will Bravo DPR = 35.42875Bravo Nova with Action point (can be followed with Bravo AT-will DPR next round if target is not dead): At-will Bravo DPR + Bravo Main Hand DPR (AP) = 54.77875nova candidate added without complaint due to the small number of candidates.Your at-will candidate I feel needs more defense for why he can get Combat Advantage to count it as at-will.  I see an encounter power, which will last possibly 2 rounds(shift remains in darkness, move provokes MBA), and a daily power.  If Superior reflexes does anything please remind me, as I'm away from my books.  If you don't explain why you can get CA, then the (CA) marker on your DPR will remain to signify that you are assuming you'll work like a dog to get CA to achieve this accuracy.Superior Reflexes is +2 Reflex defense and Combat advantage for the first turn. Requires Dex or Int 15. Quick Reply Cancel Quote message in reply? 2 years ago  ::  Feb 04, 2011 - 10:08AM #1209 Taikishi Date Joined: Jan 22, 2011 Posts: 213 Posting from phone so I cannot quote your post, Borg.I know what the feat says. I read it three times, along with Mage Weapon. However, I tried two different tools - one we know to be very buggy and another that posters on this board seem to praise. Neither allowed access to the feat to the two classes that have proficiency in Daggers (monk mc with fighter in the old builder and thief in the new) but not Simple weapons until I gave the character proficiency with khopesh. This was true even with a Mage weapon Khopesh equipped.I would suggest asking CS whether or not a Mage weapon khopesh qualifies for access to the feat assuming for thieves and mc monks. Quick Reply Cancel Quote message in reply? 2 years ago  ::  Feb 04, 2011 - 1:01PM #1210 Veleria Date Joined: Mar 19, 2010 Posts: 1,126 MAge's weapon does not grant you a proficiency, it just alters the enchanted weapon to be useable with dagger proficiency. You are implying every character in the game qualifies for kulkor feats and pp, they do not. Quick Reply Cancel Quote message in reply?
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