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3 years ago ::
Sep 25, 2010 - 9:43AM
#991
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Date Joined:
Sep 25, 2010
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Level 1 Bugbear Rogue|Swordmage (Aegis of Assault)
Str 18, Dex 18
Feat: Hybrid Talent(Brutal Scoundrel)
Oversized Rapier Riposte Strike
Attack: +9 = +3(Prof) +2(CA) +4(Dex)
Damage: 1d10 +2d6(Sneak Attack) +4(Dex, "Power") +4(Str, "Brutal Scoundrel")
Average: 20.5
Crit: 30
Second Riposte/Assault
Attack: +9 = +3(Prof) +2(CA) +4(Str)
Damage: 1d10 +2d6(Sneak Attack) +4(Str, "Power") +4(Str, "Brutal Scoundrel")
Average: 20.5
Crit: 30
DPR (CA): 0,7*20,5 + 0,05*30 + 0,75*(0,7*20,5 + 0,05*30) = 27,7375
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3 years ago ::
Sep 25, 2010 - 10:03AM
#992
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Date Joined:
Jan 23, 2008
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Level 1 Bugbear Rogue|Swordmage (Aegis of Assault)
Str 18, Dex 18
Feat: Hybrid Talent(Brutal Scoundrel)
Oversized Rapier Riposte Strike
Attack: +9 = +3(Prof) +2(CA) +4(Dex)
Damage: 1d10 +2d6(Sneak Attack) +4(Dex, "Power") +4(Str, "Brutal Scoundrel")
Average: 20.5
Crit: 30
Second Riposte/Assault
Attack: +9 = +3(Prof) +2(CA) +4(Str)
Damage: 1d10 +2d6(Sneak Attack) +4(Str, "Power") +4(Str, "Brutal Scoundrel")
Average: 20.5
Crit: 30
DPR (CA): 0,7*20,5 + 0,05*30 + 0,75*(0,7*20,5 + 0,05*30) = 27,7375
I'm getting about 29 DPR if you go 20 Dex. Try that and tell me if you want to update then I'll add this killer candidate
DPR King Candidates 3.0How much damage should I shoot for?
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You're fired : 1 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .2 KPR
Fair Striker : 2 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .4 KPR
Highly Optimized : 3 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .6 KPR
Nerfbat please : 4 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .8 KPR
It's OVER 9000!!!!!: 5 Kills Per 5 Rounds = 1+ KPR
DPR? KPR? KP4R? Bless you
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DPR = Damage Per round ~= Chance to hit * damage on a hit
KPR = Kills Per Round. 1 Kill = 8*Level+24 damage
= DPR/(8*level+24)
KPNR = Kills Per N Rounds. How many standards can you kill in N rounds?
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3 years ago ::
Sep 25, 2010 - 10:14AM
#993
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Date Joined:
Sep 25, 2010
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I'm getting about 29 DPR if you go 20 Dex. Try that and tell me if you want to update then I'll add this killer candidate
Level 1 Bugbear Rogue|Swordmage (Aegis of Assault)
Str 16, Dex 20
Feat: Hybrid Talent(Brutal Scoundrel)
Oversized Rapier Riposte Strike
Attack: +10 = +3(Prof) +2(CA) +5(Dex)
Damage: 1d10 +2d6(Sneak Attack) +5(Dex, "Power") +3(Str, "Brutal Scoundrel")
Average: 20.5
Crit: 30
Second Riposte/Assault
Attack: +8 = +3(Prof) +2(CA) +3(Str)
Damage: 1d10 +2d6(Sneak Attack) +3(Str, "Power") +3(Str, "Brutal Scoundrel")
Average: 18.5
Crit: 28
DPR (CA): 0,75*20,5 + 0,05*30 + 0,8*(0,65*18,5 + 0,05*28) = 27,615
How are you getting 29 DPR?
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3 years ago ::
Sep 25, 2010 - 10:20AM
#994
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Date Joined:
Jan 23, 2008
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Forgot about the trade-off with brutal scoundral and blindly added +1 to the attack and damage of the riposte strike and -1 on attack and damage on the riposte. I stand corrected. Congrats on the build that I think will stay on the top and most assuredly break any heroic game he's in
DPR King Candidates 3.0How much damage should I shoot for?
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You're fired : 1 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .2 KPR
Fair Striker : 2 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .4 KPR
Highly Optimized : 3 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .6 KPR
Nerfbat please : 4 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .8 KPR
It's OVER 9000!!!!!: 5 Kills Per 5 Rounds = 1+ KPR
DPR? KPR? KP4R? Bless you
Show
DPR = Damage Per round ~= Chance to hit * damage on a hit
KPR = Kills Per Round. 1 Kill = 8*Level+24 damage
= DPR/(8*level+24)
KPNR = Kills Per N Rounds. How many standards can you kill in N rounds?
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3 years ago ::
Sep 25, 2010 - 10:29AM
#995
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Date Joined:
Jan 23, 2008
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Level 1 Bugbear Rogue|Swordmage (Aegis of Assault)
Str 18, Dex 18
Feat: Hybrid Talent(Brutal Scoundrel)
Oversized Rapier Riposte Strike
Attack: +9 = +3(Prof) +2(CA) +4(Dex)
Damage: 1d10 +2d6(Sneak Attack) +4(Dex, "Power") +4(Str, "Brutal Scoundrel")
Average: 20.5
Crit: 30
Second Riposte/Assault
Attack: +9 = +3(Prof) +2(CA) +4(Str)
Damage: 1d10 +2d6(Sneak Attack) +4(Str, "Power") +4(Str, "Brutal Scoundrel")
Average: 20.5
Crit: 30
DPR (CA): 0,7*20,5 + 0,05*30 + 0,75*(0,7*20,5 + 0,05*30) = 27,7375
I've calculated a level 2 version of this guy with a subtle large rapier and Backstabber(better than expertise) and the DPR comes out at 0
.75*24.5 + 0.05*(34+4+3.5) + 0.85*(0.75*24.5 + 0.05*(34+4+3.5)) = 37.8325 DPR(CA) At level 2 this is completely broken.
DPR King Candidates 3.0How much damage should I shoot for?
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You're fired : 1 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .2 KPR
Fair Striker : 2 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .4 KPR
Highly Optimized : 3 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .6 KPR
Nerfbat please : 4 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .8 KPR
It's OVER 9000!!!!!: 5 Kills Per 5 Rounds = 1+ KPR
DPR? KPR? KP4R? Bless you
Show
DPR = Damage Per round ~= Chance to hit * damage on a hit
KPR = Kills Per Round. 1 Kill = 8*Level+24 damage
= DPR/(8*level+24)
KPNR = Kills Per N Rounds. How many standards can you kill in N rounds?
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3 years ago ::
Sep 25, 2010 - 10:44AM
#996
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Date Joined:
Jul 30, 2008
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You don't even need Hybrid cheese and get almost as much DPR.
MC Garrote so you get proficiency, get it as Light Blade and -2 to escapes (Str/Dex 18 make that very hard) and with Vicious Advantage you even generate your own CA. Puts the poor Essentials Assassin to shame... again !
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3 years ago ::
Sep 25, 2010 - 11:48AM
#997
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Date Joined:
Jan 23, 2008
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53.7 DPR(CA,bloodied) Bugbear Brutal Scoundral Rogue | Swordmage(6th), by borg285
Items: Iron armbands of power, +2 Battlecrazed Large Rapier
Feats: Hybrid talent(Brutal Scoundral), Backstabber, Versatile Expertise, Nimble blade
Stats: 20 Dex, 19 Str
Riposte Strike:
Attack:
3 (1/2 level)
2 (magic)
1 (expertise)
2 (CA)
1 (nimble blade)
5 (Dex)
3 (Prof)
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+17 vs 20 AC (90% hit rate)
Damage:
1d10 (large rapier)
2d8+4 (SA+Str)
5 (Dex)
2 (Magic)
3.5 (battlecrazed assume bloodied)
2 (armbands)
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31 average (46.5 max)
Riposte/Aegis of assault:
Attack
3 (1/2 level)
2 (magic)
1 (expertise)
2 (CA)
1 (nimble blade)
4 (Str)
3 (Prof)
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+16 vs 20 AC (85% hit rate)
Damage:
1d10 (large rapier)
2d8+4 (SA+Str)
4 (Str)
2 (Magic)
3.5 (battlecrazed assume bloodied)
2 (armbands)
2 (gauntlets of blood, they should be bloodied by now)
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32 average (46.5 max)
.85*(31)+.05*(46.5) + .9*(.8*(32)+.05*(46.5)) = 53.7
Anyone see any errors
W/o Battlecrazed weapon I get 47.7 DPR
DPR King Candidates 3.0How much damage should I shoot for?
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You're fired : 1 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .2 KPR
Fair Striker : 2 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .4 KPR
Highly Optimized : 3 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .6 KPR
Nerfbat please : 4 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .8 KPR
It's OVER 9000!!!!!: 5 Kills Per 5 Rounds = 1+ KPR
DPR? KPR? KP4R? Bless you
Show
DPR = Damage Per round ~= Chance to hit * damage on a hit
KPR = Kills Per Round. 1 Kill = 8*Level+24 damage
= DPR/(8*level+24)
KPNR = Kills Per N Rounds. How many standards can you kill in N rounds?
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3 years ago ::
Sep 25, 2010 - 12:11PM
#998
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Date Joined:
Jan 23, 2008
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The nice thing about this bugbear is that you have your off-hand free for either the lovely versatile hand crossbows each with their own ammunition for just the occasion, or a mage's parrying dagger for even more AC.
If you did want the battlecrazed weapon you could get fast hands as your 2nd level utility and spam some blood fury weapons each round. You could afford perhaps 3-4 and encounters shouldn't be going that long. If they do then you'd better bet your bottom that the DM would be focusing on you and making you bloodied, thus no need for the blood fury weapons, or you're dead and it doesn't matter, he's won the arms race
DPR King Candidates 3.0How much damage should I shoot for?
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You're fired : 1 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .2 KPR
Fair Striker : 2 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .4 KPR
Highly Optimized : 3 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .6 KPR
Nerfbat please : 4 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .8 KPR
It's OVER 9000!!!!!: 5 Kills Per 5 Rounds = 1+ KPR
DPR? KPR? KP4R? Bless you
Show
DPR = Damage Per round ~= Chance to hit * damage on a hit
KPR = Kills Per Round. 1 Kill = 8*Level+24 damage
= DPR/(8*level+24)
KPNR = Kills Per N Rounds. How many standards can you kill in N rounds?
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3 years ago ::
Sep 25, 2010 - 12:22PM
#999
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Date Joined:
Jul 30, 2008
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Battlecrazed doesn't work - aside from the gamble being bloodied.
It's L9, so off limit at L6, and only works with Heavy Blades & Axes.
Gauntlets of Blood don't trigger either, if you go nitpicking, because you need 36 dmg to bloody a L6 target. (Aside the likely blow you budget, if you want at least some basic armor / neck.)
On the plus side you can go Dex 20 (17+2+1) & Str 18 (15+2+1) at L6, and still start with 13 in say Wis or Con...
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3 years ago ::
Sep 25, 2010 - 12:35PM
#1000
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Date Joined:
Jan 23, 2008
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Battlecrazed doesn't work - aside from the gamble being bloodied.
It's L9, so off limit at L6, and only works with Heavy Blades & Axes.
Then I've got a bone to pick with one of the candidates that used a +2 battlecrazed longsword at level 6. I assumed it was correct. What's the next best weapon? Subtle is an item bonus and a +2 version would cost more than iron armbands of power.
A level 4 item isn't that much.
Let's see a L6 iron armbands of power
L6 basic +2 magic large rapier
L4 gauntlets of blood
Ahh, I see the L6 neck or L6 armor
hrmmm
WOOT!!!! 1000th post. YAY, talking about a DPR king, who would have guessed
DPR King Candidates 3.0How much damage should I shoot for?
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You're fired : 1 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .2 KPR
Fair Striker : 2 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .4 KPR
Highly Optimized : 3 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .6 KPR
Nerfbat please : 4 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .8 KPR
It's OVER 9000!!!!!: 5 Kills Per 5 Rounds = 1+ KPR
DPR? KPR? KP4R? Bless you
Show
DPR = Damage Per round ~= Chance to hit * damage on a hit
KPR = Kills Per Round. 1 Kill = 8*Level+24 damage
= DPR/(8*level+24)
KPNR = Kills Per N Rounds. How many standards can you kill in N rounds?
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