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Ugh - even with level by level wealth, ammunition is ridiculously expensive.  In fact, it's so expensive, LDB would never even consider it - I have to sacrifice my armour/neck enhancement just to stay within 2 points of enhancement of where a 'normal' character would be.  I'm going to end up with a character with 44/35/39/39 or some such silliness for defenses.

Jul 25, 2010 -- 6:59PM, RX-75 wrote:

is it so that you can get eany items you wont in your price range?
att lv 6 is it corect that i haw 6400 to spend?
in that cate gan i get a lv 10 item for 5000 if i wonted to?

yes, that is correct. on the side note, Talon Amulet and Bracers are both item bonus to damage; they don't stack

Well, in good news, it sounds like ammo is balanced. Even though their DPR is lower, I've never felt bad about ranged rangers. Being able to attack at 40 squares away, being able to kite, no negative effect against fliers, shooting running enemies, never losing attacks to immobilize/slow/positioning, being able to pick any target on the battlefield with relative impunity (including the squishies and casters in the back) and still not being that bad in the damage department...

The versatility makes up for the sub-par damage imho.

Jul 25, 2010 -- 6:59PM, RX-75 wrote:

is it so that you can get eany items you wont in your price range?
att lv 6 is it corect that i haw 6400 to spend?
in that cate gan i get a lv 10 item for 5000 if i wonted to?

Typically here you cannot have an item above Level + 1, but that is mostly there so your defenses are reasonable.

Jul 26, 2010 -- 8:06AM, VonLazuli wrote:

I thought I might throw up an alternate level 16 Hellish Rebuke Warlock. This build is similar to Landsknecht73's build, but uses Revenant Teifling and doesn't require Prime Shot for the damage. The equipment is based on gp value of level +1, level, level -1 items. If it were treasure parcel based, it is likely that the defenses wouldn't tank so badly.

Total DPR: 89.84

Cheese: @

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Chance to have hit last round: 0.94 (1 - (0.05 + (0.05x0.1)))

To-Hit: +23(26) to hit Ref 28

+7 Constitution
+8 Half-level
+4 Enhancement
+2 Expertise
+1 Hellfire Blood
+1 Incendiary Dagger
(+2 Combat Advantage - near certain from Shadow Warlock Armour)
(+1 Arcane Underpinning - applies 94% of the time)

Initial and Rebuke Damage: 1d6 + 31 (35) fire and cold damage (38.5)
Crit: 4d6 + 41 fire and cold damage (55)


+7 Constitution
+4 Enhancement
+3 Off-hand Enhancement
+2 Weapon Focus
+3 Blood Pact of Cania
+1 Hellfire Blood
+3 Fundamental Mastery
+3 Dragonshard
+3 Incendiary Dagger
+2 Gloves of Ice
(+4 Subtle Dagger - near certain from Shadow Warlock Armour)

Cold Vulnerability - 5 (applies 94% of the time and to every rebuke)

Curse: 2d6 (7)
Crit: 12



Total DPR:
0.94 x (0.9 x (38.5 + 7 + 5 + 38.5 + 5) + 0.05 x (55 + 12 + 5 + 38.5 + 5)) + 0.06 x (0.85 x (38.5 + 7 + 38.5 + 5) + 0.05 x (55 + 12 + 38.5 + 5))
= 89.84

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Rebuke Cold, level 16
Revenant, Warlock, Academy Master
Eldritch Blast: Eldritch Blast Constitution
Eldritch Pact: Infernal Pact
Arcane Implement Proficiency: Arcane Implement Proficiency (light blade group)
Versatile Expertise: Versatile Expertise (Light Blade)
Versatile Expertise: Versatile Expertise (Rod)
Arcane Admixture Damage Type: Arcane Admixture Cold
Choose your Race in Life: Tiefling
Arcane Admixture Power: Hellish Rebuke

FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 9, Con 24, Dex 19, Int 11, Wis 11, Cha 14.

STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 8, Con 18, Dex 13, Int 10, Wis 10, Cha 13.

AC: 27 Fort: 28 Reflex: 27 Will: 24
HP: 111 Surges: 13 Surge Value: 27

TRAINED SKILLS
Religion +13, Thievery +17, Bluff +15, Intimidate +17

UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +12, Arcana +10, Diplomacy +10, Dungeoneering +8, Endurance +17, Heal +8, History +8, Insight +8, Nature +8, Perception +8, Stealth +12, Streetwise +10, Athletics +7

FEATS
Level 1: Arcane Implement Proficiency
Level 2: Versatile Expertise
Level 4: Weapon Focus (Light Blade)
Level 6: Blood Pact of Cania
Level 8: Hellfire Blood
Level 10: Bloodied Boon
Level 11: Dual Implement Spellcaster
Level 12: Superior Implement Training (Incendiary dagger)
Level 14: Arcane Admixture
Level 16: Lasting Frost

POWERS
Eldritch Blast: Eldritch Blast
Infernal Pact: Hellish Rebuke

ITEMS
Shadowrift Blade Dagger +3, Shadow Warlock Drowmesh +3, Khyber Shard of the Fiery Depth (paragon tier), Gloves of Ice (paragon tier), Subtle Incendiary dagger +4, Amulet of Protection +3
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I like...I am still working on clarifying what damage carries over to the rebuke...I am not sure on the lasting frost (power says fire damage and I am not sure if the cold damage type remains) or subtle since the rebuke damage is not dependent on CA.  There is another thread in the Rules forum onging about this very thing.