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3 years ago ::
Apr 15, 2010 - 1:20PM
#461
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Your #2 level 1 DPR Candidate, The Goliath Assassin|Ranger, is also flawed.
In his calculations for his Quarry and Shroud damage, he put .95*(1d6+5) for shroud damage instead of .65*(1d6+5)
this will drop his DPR by roughly 3.
Unless there is some magical +6 to hit I am missing on one of his attacks.
Thank you for bringing this up. You helped me identify that that build of mine was reliant on an old hybrid assassin where the shrouds were invokable on any power and not just assassin powers. He has been moved into the nerf bin.
DPR King Candidates 3.0How much damage should I shoot for?
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You're fired : 1 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .2 KPR
Fair Striker : 2 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .4 KPR
Highly Optimized : 3 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .6 KPR
Nerfbat please : 4 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .8 KPR
It's OVER 9000!!!!!: 5 Kills Per 5 Rounds = 1+ KPR
DPR? KPR? KP4R? Bless you
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DPR = Damage Per round ~= Chance to hit * damage on a hit
KPR = Kills Per Round. 1 Kill = 8*Level+24 damage
= DPR/(8*level+24)
KPNR = Kills Per N Rounds. How many standards can you kill in N rounds?
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3 years ago ::
Apr 15, 2010 - 1:36PM
#462
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Date Joined:
Feb 25, 2010
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Id also like to attempt to submit my own LVL 1 DPR candidate.
Level 1
Longtooth Shifter, Monk|Ranger
Monastic Tradition (Hybrid): Stone Fist (Hybrid)
Hybrid Ranger: Hybrid Ranger Reflex
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 20, Con 10, Dex 14, Int 9, Wis 12, Cha 10.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 18, Con 10, Dex 14, Int 9, Wis 10, Cha 10.
Assuming a Target AC of 15
Throw and Stab (Trident)
+7 Attack bonus: STR Mod (5)+ Proficiency (2)
1d8 weapon + 1d6 quarry +2 (Blood Fury)
Crit= 16*.05= .8
Average hit= 10*.6= 6
Charge: Monk Unarmed Strike (as a basic melee)
+9 attack bonus: STR Mod (5) + Charge (+1) +Proficiency (3)
1d8+ Str Mod (5)+ 2 (Blood Fury)+ 3 (Gorebrute Charge Feat) +8(Flurry of Blows)
Crit= 26*.05= 1.3
Average Hit= 22.5*.7= 15.75
15.75+1.3+6+.8= 23.85 damage
I think that works, let me know if I did it wrong xD Still new to DPR Calculation
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3 years ago ::
Apr 15, 2010 - 1:51PM
#463
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Date Joined:
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Id also like to attempt to submit my own LVL 1 DPR candidate.
Level 1
Longtooth Shifter, Monk|Ranger
...Awesome stuf...
Your calculations look good, and concise. I'm away from my books so, while I will post this as the level 1 king, I'd like to know how you are getting 8 from your flurry of blows.
EDIT: did you take out your crit chance from your base hit chance: I have a 60% chance to hit and a 5% chance to crit and do 10 damage average when I hit and 16 damage average when I crit, thus I calculate my DPR like this
(.6-.05)*10 + .05*16
DPR King Candidates 3.0How much damage should I shoot for?
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You're fired : 1 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .2 KPR
Fair Striker : 2 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .4 KPR
Highly Optimized : 3 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .6 KPR
Nerfbat please : 4 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .8 KPR
It's OVER 9000!!!!!: 5 Kills Per 5 Rounds = 1+ KPR
DPR? KPR? KP4R? Bless you
Show
DPR = Damage Per round ~= Chance to hit * damage on a hit
KPR = Kills Per Round. 1 Kill = 8*Level+24 damage
= DPR/(8*level+24)
KPNR = Kills Per N Rounds. How many standards can you kill in N rounds?
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3 years ago ::
Apr 15, 2010 - 1:55PM
#464
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Date Joined:
Feb 25, 2010
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Stone fist flurry Effect: The target takes damage equal to 3 + your Strength modifier. If the target wasn’t targeted by the triggering attack, the damage increases by 2. My STR Mod is 5.
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3 years ago ::
Apr 15, 2010 - 2:01PM
#465
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Date Joined:
Jan 23, 2008
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First of all, congradulations for topping the level 1 section. I didn't think it was possible. For the longest time we had a hard time breaking 20 DPR.
Second, be more careful copying and pasting from copyrighted material. Simply the effect would have been sufficent and less likely to get flagged and removed.
It's always good to hear that this resource is used to help out gamers tweak their characters. I hope the format was easy to read and had relevant information.
DPR King Candidates 3.0How much damage should I shoot for?
Show
You're fired : 1 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .2 KPR
Fair Striker : 2 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .4 KPR
Highly Optimized : 3 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .6 KPR
Nerfbat please : 4 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .8 KPR
It's OVER 9000!!!!!: 5 Kills Per 5 Rounds = 1+ KPR
DPR? KPR? KP4R? Bless you
Show
DPR = Damage Per round ~= Chance to hit * damage on a hit
KPR = Kills Per Round. 1 Kill = 8*Level+24 damage
= DPR/(8*level+24)
KPNR = Kills Per N Rounds. How many standards can you kill in N rounds?
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3 years ago ::
Apr 15, 2010 - 2:18PM
#466
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Edited for that, and thanks! And sorry for being so Elitist, Ill try not to come across that way in the future 
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3 years ago ::
Apr 15, 2010 - 2:44PM
#467
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Date Joined:
Nov 23, 2003
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Throw and Stab (Trident)
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Charge: Monk Unarmed Strike (as a basic melee)
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1d8+ Str Mod (5)+ 2 (Blood Fury)+ 3 (Gorebrute Charge Feat) +8(Flurry of Blows)
How are you applying Flurry of Blows on a BMA when you're a Hybrid monk? Arguing that "all the features" includes removing the restriction of "monk power or monk paragon path powr"?
"Nice assumptions. Completely wrong assumptions, but by jove if being incorrect stopped people from making idiotic statements, we wouldn't have modern internet subculture." Kerrus
Practical gameplay runs by neither RAW or RAI, but rather "A Compromise Between The Gist Of The Rule As I Recall Getting The Impression Of It That One Time I Read It And What Jerry Says He Remembers, Whatever, We'll Look It Up Later If Any Of Us Still Give A Damn." Erachima
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3 years ago ::
Apr 15, 2010 - 3:07PM
#468
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Date Joined:
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Monk unarmed strike may be used as a basic melee attack. It follows through Hybrid-ing, and counts as a monk power to the best of my knowledge
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3 years ago ::
Apr 15, 2010 - 3:27PM
#469
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Unfortunately, basic attacks, including the monk unarmed strike does not count as a power so you cant use flurry of blows on it. If it was true then a hybrid brawler could mark with his bsaic unarmed strike and then hybrid rogues could sneak on their basic attacks.
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3 years ago ::
Apr 15, 2010 - 3:31PM
#470
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Date Joined:
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Monk unarmed strike may be used as a basic melee attack. It follows through Hybrid-ing, and counts as a monk power to the best of my knowledge
Monk Unarmed Strike just makes your fist a half-way decent weapon for weapon powers. A basic melee attack that's just a basic melee attack still isn't a monk class power.
"Nice assumptions. Completely wrong assumptions, but by jove if being incorrect stopped people from making idiotic statements, we wouldn't have modern internet subculture." Kerrus
Practical gameplay runs by neither RAW or RAI, but rather "A Compromise Between The Gist Of The Rule As I Recall Getting The Impression Of It That One Time I Read It And What Jerry Says He Remembers, Whatever, We'll Look It Up Later If Any Of Us Still Give A Damn." Erachima
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