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2 years ago ::
Oct 24, 2011 - 7:47PM
#1511
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Date Joined:
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Here's my entry. Wanted to see what I can do with a barb.
Will be charging for this.
Level 1 Bugbear Barbarian
Str 20
At Will:
Howling Strike
Feat
Powerful Charge
Weapon is an oversized heavy flail (2h) 2D8
Attack: 5(Str) + 2(prof) + 1(Charge) = 8 ; 15AC 1 - .05(15 - (8) - 1) = 0.7 crit 0.05
DMG : (Heavy Flail; howling strike; STR; power charge) 2D8+1D6+5+2 = 19.5
Crit DMG (As above abilities) 16+6+5+2 = 29
DPR: 0.3*zugzug + 0.7*19.5 + 0.05*29 =13.65+1.45 = 15.1
Final DPR with rampage on crit using Howling Strike as the melee : 15.1+15.1*0.05 = 15.855
Minor issue but you applied the Charge bonus to your Rampage crit, also you cannot use Howling Strike with Rampage
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2 years ago ::
Oct 25, 2011 - 1:14PM
#1512
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Date Joined:
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Ah, the same source as you have for a DPR 9+ for a stormwarden lists an elven archer with 12+
community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/758...
Any chance you could delete this post? It would help the first page. I'll delete this one too.
DPR King Candidates 3.0How much damage should I shoot for?
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You're fired : 1 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .2 KPR
Fair Striker : 2 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .4 KPR
Highly Optimized : 3 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .6 KPR
Nerfbat please : 4 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .8 KPR
It's OVER 9000!!!!!: 5 Kills Per 5 Rounds = 1+ KPR
DPR? KPR? KP4R? Bless you
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DPR = Damage Per round ~= Chance to hit * damage on a hit
KPR = Kills Per Round. 1 Kill = 8*Level+24 damage
= DPR/(8*level+24)
KPNR = Kills Per N Rounds. How many standards can you kill in N rounds?
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2 years ago ::
Oct 25, 2011 - 2:00PM
#1513
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Date Joined:
Apr 16, 2004
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Minor issue but you applied the Charge bonus to your Rampage crit, also you cannot use Howling Strike with Rampage
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Here's my entry. Wanted to see what I can do with a barb.
Will be charging for this.
Level 1 Bugbear Barbarian
Str 20
At Will:
Howling Strike
Feat
Powerful Charge
Weapon is an oversized heavy flail (2h) 2D8
Attack: 5(Str) + 2(prof) + 1(Charge) = 8 ; 15AC 1 - .05(15 - (8) - 1) = 0.7 crit 0.05
DMG : (Heavy Flail; howling strike; STR; power charge) 2D8+1D6+5+2 = 19.5
Crit DMG (As above abilities) 16+6+5+2 = 29
DPR: 0.3*zugzug + 0.7*19.5 + 0.05*29 =13.65+1.45 = 15.1
Rampage: 10.15
Final DPR with rampage on crit : 15.1+10.15*0.05 = 15.6075 lets just say 15.61
Fixed and done.
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2 years ago ::
Oct 25, 2011 - 3:51PM
#1514
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Date Joined:
Jan 23, 2008
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Striker of Pelor
King of Lvl 16, 75.02 DPR
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Submission: King of Lvl 16
Revision: 1.2
Class/Race: Hybrid Longtooth Shifter Avenger/Invoker MC Fighter PP Kensei
Final Ability Scores: Str 14, Con 11, Dex 18, Int 11, Wis 24, Cha 9
Powers: Sun Strike
Feats: Weapon Focus (Staff), Versatile Expertise, Power of the Sun, Distant Vengeance, Wintertouched, Battle Awareness, Painful Oath, Lasting Frost, Two-Weapon Fighting, Pervasive Light
Items: Pelor's Sun Blessing (level 3), The Raven Queen's Shroud (level 3), Frost Quarterstaff +3, Siberys Shard of Merciless Cold (paragon tier), Gloves of Ice (paragon tier), Battle Harness Cloth Armor (Basic Clothing) +1, Blood Fury Handaxe +1, Eagle Eye Goggles (paragon tier), Bracers of the Perfect Shot (paragon tier), Symbol of Divine Light +4, Frozen Whetstone (heroic tier) (10)
Setup: Have Kensei Focus for the Quarterstaff. Get Longtooth Shifting with Bloodfury Handaxe. Hit to get +17 damage with Power of the Sun (and Symbol of Divine Light) and Pelor's Sun Blessing, and to get +5 damage with Lasting Frost and CA with Wintertouched. Have enough Frozen Whetstones.
Attack: Sun Strike vs Oath of Enmity with Distant Vengeance and Frost Quarterstaff
Intention: Use Ranged Basic Attack of a Hybrid Class with Distant Vengeance.
Based on: -
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1.1 Added The Raven Queen's Shroud Boon to get an reroll on one damage die per turn against the marked oath of enmity. It could be seen like a brutal 4 property for the 1d8 dice of the Sun Strike.
1.2 Pit Fighter replaced with Kensei Paragon Path.
Math
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Sun Strike:
Hit (+25 vs Reflex 28, two rolls): 7 (Wisdom) + 8 (1/2 level) + 3 (Enhancement) + 2 (versatile Expertise) + 2 (Item, Eagle Eye Goggles) + 2 (CA, Wintertouched) + 1 (Kensei Focus) = 89.3% crit 9.7%
DPH: 4.5 crit 8 (Sun Strike) + 1 (Brutal 4, The Raven Queen's Shroud) + 7 (Wisdom) + 3 (Enhancement) + 2 (Weapon Focus) + 4 (Item, Bracers of the Perfect Shot, Heroic) + 5 (Lasting Frost Vulnerability) + 7 (Pelor's Sun Blessing) + 10 (Power of the Sun Vulnerability, Paragon & Symbol of Divine Light) + 7 (Pain of Oath) + 10 (Pervasive Light & Symbol of Divine Light) + 3 (Siberys Shard of Merciless Cold, Paragon) + 2 (Gloves of Ice) + 2 (Frozen Whetstone) + 2 (Longtooth Shifting) + 1 (Two-Weapon Fighting) + 4 (Kensei Mastery) + 0 crit 10.5 (Frost Quarterstaff) = 74.5 crit 87.5
DPR: (.893)(74.5) + (.097)(87.5) = 75.02
King of Lvl 12, 52.55 DPR
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Submission: King of Lvl 12, 52.55 DPR
Revision: 1.4
Class/Race: Hybrid Human Avenger/Invoker MC Seeker PP Crimson Hunter
Final Ability Scores: Str 14, Con 11, Dex 11, Int 18, Wis 20, Cha 9
Powers: Sun Strike
Feats: Primal Sharpshooter, Weapon Focus (Staff) (retrained to Primal Eye), Versatile Expertise, Power of the Sun, Distant Vengeance, Wintertouched, Alertness (retrained to Pervasive Light), Painful Oath, Lasting Frost
Items: Pelor's Sun Blessing (level 3), The Raven Queen's Shroud (level 3), Bracers of the Perfect Shot (heroic tier), Eagle Eye Goggles (heroic tier), Frost Quarterstaff +3, Siberys Shard of Merciless Cold (paragon tier), Gloves of Ice (paragon tier)
Setup: Minor Action to focus Oath of Enmity, Minor to mark the oath as the mark of the Raven Queen, Standard Action to Hit to get +11 damage with Power of the Sun and Pelor's Sun Blessing, and to get +5 damage with Lasting Frost and CA with Wintertouched.
Attack: Sun Strike vs Oath of Enmity with Distant Vengeance and Frost Quarterstaff
Intention: Use Ranged Basic Attack of a Hybrid Class with Distant Vengeance.
Based on: -
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1.1 Nice side-effect, thx to the fix SongNSilence made (Pervasive Light), we get a higher DPR 48.89
1.2 Race changed to Longtooth Shifter, added Battle Harness and Blood Fury Handaxe, loosing Human Bonus Feat Hybrid Talent (Armor of Faith), now DPR 50.81
1.3 Race changed back to Human, Human Feat now Primal Sharpshooter, Weapon Focus retrained to Primal Eye, no need for Battle Harness and Blood Fury Handaxe, now 51.71 DPR
1.4 Added The Raven Queen's Shroud Boon to get an reroll on one damage die per turn against the marked oath of enmity. It could be seen like a brutal 4 property for the 1d8 dice of the Sun Strike.
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Sun Strike:
Hit (+20 vs Reflex 24, two rolls): 6 (Wisdom) + 6 (1/2 level) + 3 (Enhancement) + 1 (Focused Expertise) + 1 (Item, Eagle Eye Goggles) + 1 (Accurate Arrow) + 2 (CA, Wintertouched) = 88% crit 9.7%
DPH: 4.5 crit 8 (Sun Strike) + 1 (Brutal 4, The Raven Queen's Shroud) + 6 (Wisdom) + 3 (Enhancement) + 4 (Primal Eye) + 2 (Item, Bracers of the Perfect Shot, Heroic) + 5 (Lasting Frost Vulnerability) + 6 (Pelor's Sun Blessing) + 5 (Power of the Sun Vulnerability, Paragon) + 6 (Pain of Oath) + 5 (Pervasive Light) + 3 (Siberys Shard of Merciless Cold, Paragon) + 2 (Gloves of Ice) + 0 crit 10.5 (Frost Quarterstaff) = 52.5 crit 65.5
DPR: (.88)(52.5) + (.097)(65.5) = 52.5535
King of Lvl 6, 26.79 DPR
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Submission: King of Lvl 6
Revision: 1.0
Class/Race: Hybrid Longtooth Shifter Avenger/Invoker
Final Ability Scores: Str 15, Con 10, Dex 10, Int 16, Wis 20, Cha 8
Powers: Sun Strike
Feats: Distant Vengeance, Power of the Sun, Superior Implement Training (Defiant rod), Versatile Expertise
Items: Pelor's Sun Blessing (level 3), The Raven Queen's Shroud (level 3), Magic Defiant rod +2, Eagle Eye Goggles (heroic tier), Bracers of the Perfect Shot (heroic tier), Blood Fury Handaxe +1, Gauntlets of Blood (heroic tier)
Setup: Get Longtooth Shifting with Bloodfury Handaxe. Hit to get additional damage with Power of the Sun and Pelor's Sun Blessing.
Attack: Sun Strike vs Oath of Enmity with Distant Vengeance
Intention: Use Ranged Basic Attack of a Hybrid Class with Distant Vengeance.
Based on: -
Revisions
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Math
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Sun Strike:
Hit (+12 vs Reflex 18, two rolls): 5 (Wisdom) + 3 (1/2 level) + 2 (Enhancement) + 1 (Versatile Expertise) + 1 (Item, Eagle Eye Goggles) = 84% crit 9.7%
DPH: 4.5 crit 8 (Sun Strike) + 1 (Brutal 4, The Raven Queen's Shroud) + 5 (Wisdom) + 2 (Enhancement) + 2 (Item, Bracers of the Perfect Shot, Heroic) + 5 (Pelor's Sun Blessing) + 3 (Power of the Sun Vulnerability) + 2 (Longtooth Shifting) + 2 crit 9 (Defiant Rod) + 1 (Gauntlets of Blood, Heroic, 50% in battle target is bloodied) = 27.5 crit 38
DPR: (.84)(27.5) + (.097)(38) = 26.786
Are you attacking with the symbol of divine light or staff. The symbol only adds damage with attacks made with the symbol.
DPR King Candidates 3.0How much damage should I shoot for?
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You're fired : 1 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .2 KPR
Fair Striker : 2 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .4 KPR
Highly Optimized : 3 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .6 KPR
Nerfbat please : 4 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .8 KPR
It's OVER 9000!!!!!: 5 Kills Per 5 Rounds = 1+ KPR
DPR? KPR? KP4R? Bless you
Show
DPR = Damage Per round ~= Chance to hit * damage on a hit
KPR = Kills Per Round. 1 Kill = 8*Level+24 damage
= DPR/(8*level+24)
KPNR = Kills Per N Rounds. How many standards can you kill in N rounds?
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2 years ago ::
Oct 26, 2011 - 12:15AM
#1515
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Date Joined:
Dec 23, 2008
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Are you attacking with the symbol of divine light or staff. The symbol only adds damage with attacks made with the symbol.
Symbol of Divine light adds the damage for every radiant attack againt creatures with radiant vulnerability. There is no "made with this symbol" in the property of the item!
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2 years ago ::
Oct 26, 2011 - 2:17AM
#1516
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Date Joined:
Sep 26, 2011
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Thanks for the update, Borg285! It's good to be the king (nenvermind that it is a category no one else has a candidate in  )
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2 years ago ::
Oct 26, 2011 - 9:59AM
#1517
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Date Joined:
Jan 23, 2008
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Are you attacking with the symbol of divine light or staff. The symbol only adds damage with attacks made with the symbol.
Symbol of Divine light adds the damage for every radiant attack againt creatures with radiant vulnerability. There is no "made with this symbol" in the property of the item!
I stand corrected.
DPR King Candidates 3.0How much damage should I shoot for?
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You're fired : 1 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .2 KPR
Fair Striker : 2 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .4 KPR
Highly Optimized : 3 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .6 KPR
Nerfbat please : 4 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .8 KPR
It's OVER 9000!!!!!: 5 Kills Per 5 Rounds = 1+ KPR
DPR? KPR? KP4R? Bless you
Show
DPR = Damage Per round ~= Chance to hit * damage on a hit
KPR = Kills Per Round. 1 Kill = 8*Level+24 damage
= DPR/(8*level+24)
KPNR = Kills Per N Rounds. How many standards can you kill in N rounds?
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2 years ago ::
Oct 27, 2011 - 9:52PM
#1518
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Date Joined:
Sep 24, 2010
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52 DPR(1st target), 37 DPR(2nd) Revenant Monk(12th), by Illeist
Updated this build with the Fey Beast Tamer. Also, how did you calculate those damage values? Is there an accepted multi-target value table like we have for AoEs?
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2 years ago ::
Oct 28, 2011 - 11:11AM
#1519
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Date Joined:
Nov 23, 2003
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Symbol of Divine light adds the damage for every radiant attack againt creatures with radiant vulnerability. There is no "made with this symbol" in the property of the item!
I stand corrected.
I could have sworn that had gotten hit by the nerf bat, but I'm away from sources right now and can't check.
I will just point out that the compendium is not a rules source. It has errors.
"Nice assumptions. Completely wrong assumptions, but by jove if being incorrect stopped people from making idiotic statements, we wouldn't have modern internet subculture." Kerrus
Practical gameplay runs by neither RAW or RAI, but rather "A Compromise Between The Gist Of The Rule As I Recall Getting The Impression Of It That One Time I Read It And What Jerry Says He Remembers, Whatever, We'll Look It Up Later If Any Of Us Still Give A Damn." Erachima
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2 years ago ::
Oct 28, 2011 - 11:15AM
#1520
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- Senior Volunteer Community Lead
Date Joined:
Aug 19, 2007
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It used to increase vulnerability to radiant by 5... and was nerfed _heavily_ to just providing a +5 item bonus to damage against radiant vulnerable targets.
Sounds like the compendium might _also_ be wrong. Awesome.
Keith Richmond
Living Forgotten Realms Epic Writing Director
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