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2 years ago ::
Oct 22, 2011 - 3:40PM
#1491
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Date Joined:
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Updated. Wow you guys. You continue to astonish me. Please tell me if I got your post wrong.
DPR King Candidates 3.0How much damage should I shoot for?
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You're fired : 1 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .2 KPR
Fair Striker : 2 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .4 KPR
Highly Optimized : 3 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .6 KPR
Nerfbat please : 4 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .8 KPR
It's OVER 9000!!!!!: 5 Kills Per 5 Rounds = 1+ KPR
DPR? KPR? KP4R? Bless you
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DPR = Damage Per round ~= Chance to hit * damage on a hit
KPR = Kills Per Round. 1 Kill = 8*Level+24 damage
= DPR/(8*level+24)
KPNR = Kills Per N Rounds. How many standards can you kill in N rounds?
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2 years ago ::
Oct 22, 2011 - 3:46PM
#1492
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Date Joined:
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Updated. Wow you guys. You continue to astonish me. Please tell me if I got your post wrong.
To be fair, probably need (CA, Ch, Mount) tag
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2 years ago ::
Oct 22, 2011 - 3:47PM
#1493
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Date Joined:
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Doesnt the scout need Charge and CA tags?
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2 years ago ::
Oct 22, 2011 - 3:48PM
#1494
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Date Joined:
Jan 23, 2008
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I don't know if it legal for the DPR king board but I made a lightsaber half elf that reaches a dpr of 110.64 and 114.15 against bloodied creatures,
making it the actual lv 16 king (Ioun's Revenge doesn't work because he cannot use the 18-20 expanded range from resurgent wilder)
To hit=7(wis)+8(1/2lvl)+3(enh)+2(we)+2(prof)+2(CA)-2(PA)=+22 vs CA 30 miss on a 7
Damage, Twin Strike:
hit=2*(1-0.35^2)*(3.5(weapon)+3(valenar)+3(enh)+3(shard)+7(pelor's boon)+10(vuln)+5(divine symbol)+6(PA)+4(frozen whetstone+1(twf)+5(vuln)(+2(GoB))
crit=(1-0.90^2)*(2.5+2*3.5+12+10.5)
total=2*(hit+crit)+(1-0.35^4)*7(Oath)+((1-0.35)^2)*7(quickhit bracers)
Here it is the snapshot: on the Summary Tab ======
Please post an argument on how you are using morninglord, Painful Oath and Pervasive light at the same time. I'm not doubting you, just please spell it out for us. I'm perfectly willing to put you up, provided you give a convincing argument.
Check Symbol of divine light's update. It is no longer as passive as it once was.
DPR King Candidates 3.0How much damage should I shoot for?
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You're fired : 1 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .2 KPR
Fair Striker : 2 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .4 KPR
Highly Optimized : 3 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .6 KPR
Nerfbat please : 4 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .8 KPR
It's OVER 9000!!!!!: 5 Kills Per 5 Rounds = 1+ KPR
DPR? KPR? KP4R? Bless you
Show
DPR = Damage Per round ~= Chance to hit * damage on a hit
KPR = Kills Per Round. 1 Kill = 8*Level+24 damage
= DPR/(8*level+24)
KPNR = Kills Per N Rounds. How many standards can you kill in N rounds?
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2 years ago ::
Oct 22, 2011 - 3:55PM
#1495
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Date Joined:
May 12, 2009
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Btw, Have you considered seperating the L6 Mount DPR and the L6 non-Mount DPR
Mounts are pretty unfair
Once you assume mount, you assume that they will be charging, and once you assume charge, assume Vanguard and Horned Helm
So a Mount Charge adds a good ~8 + 8.2 DPR, which means that you already hit the "baseline" DPR levels even without considering anything else
There is only a single build on the level 6 DPR that is over 40 DPR, and that build is Riposte based that cannot be controled
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2 years ago ::
Oct 22, 2011 - 4:56PM
#1496
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Date Joined:
Jan 23, 2008
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Btw, Have you considered seperating the L6 Mount DPR and the L6 non-Mount DPR
Mounts are pretty unfair
Once you assume mount, you assume that they will be charging, and once you assume charge, assume Vanguard and Horned Helm
So a Mount Charge adds a good ~8 + 8.2 DPR, which means that you already hit the "baseline" DPR levels even without considering anything else
There is only a single build on the level 6 DPR that is over 40 DPR, and that build is Riposte based that cannot be controled
Mounted will now be it's own section for level 6.
DPR King Candidates 3.0How much damage should I shoot for?
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You're fired : 1 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .2 KPR
Fair Striker : 2 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .4 KPR
Highly Optimized : 3 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .6 KPR
Nerfbat please : 4 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .8 KPR
It's OVER 9000!!!!!: 5 Kills Per 5 Rounds = 1+ KPR
DPR? KPR? KP4R? Bless you
Show
DPR = Damage Per round ~= Chance to hit * damage on a hit
KPR = Kills Per Round. 1 Kill = 8*Level+24 damage
= DPR/(8*level+24)
KPNR = Kills Per N Rounds. How many standards can you kill in N rounds?
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2 years ago ::
Oct 22, 2011 - 6:28PM
#1497
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Date Joined:
May 12, 2009
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I noticed you split it by Charge and no Charge So heres a Simple Mounted but no Charge Slayer build Lv6 Bugbear Slayer 20 STR 18 DEX Feats - Weapon Prof Mordenkrad, Bludgeon Expertise, Weapon Focus Hammer, Mount Items - Frost Mordenkrad +1, Lancing Gloves, Bracers Mighty Strikes, Giant Lizard, Ice Dragon Shard Power Battle Wrath MBA 15 Attack - (5 STR, 3 Level, 2 Prof, 1 Enh, 1 Class, 1 Expertise, 2 CA) 80% Hit 2d8+20 Damage - (6 DEX, 5 STR, 1 Enh, 2 Bracer, 2 Lancing, 1 Focus, 2 Wrath, 1 Ice Shard) 22-36 Damage [29]|| 37-42 Crit [39.5] 29 * 0.75 = 21.75 |+| 39.5 *0.05 = 1.975 == 23.725 Lizard Claw = 6.85 DPR 23.725 + 6.85 = 30.57 30.57 DPR (CA, Mount) Bugbear Slayer (6th), by Talamare
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2 years ago ::
Oct 22, 2011 - 7:42PM
#1498
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This is a human Pack Outcast at 6th level with no real tricks to it besides spiked chain and lightblade/twoweapon damage feats and IAoP. No mount, no charging, just stands there and beats on people. I'm quite suprised at how much it should generate. level 6 DPR try
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====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ======
DPR try, level 6
Human, Ranger (Scout)
Ranger Wilderness Knacks Option: Ambush Expertise (Ranger)
Ranger Wilderness Knacks Option: Mountain Guide (Ranger)
Two-Weapon Style Option: Flashing Blade Mastery
Level 4 Wilderness Knack Option: Wilderness Tracker (Ranger)
Human Power Selection Option: Heroic Effort
Monster Hunter (Monster Hunter Benefit)
Theme: Pack Outcast
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
STR 10, CON 13, DEX 20, INT 10, WIS 16, CHA 8
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
STR 10, CON 13, DEX 17, INT 10, WIS 15, CHA 8
AC: 21 Fort: 17 Ref: 21 Will: 18
HP: 50 Surges: 8 Surge Value: 12
TRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +12, Dungeoneering +11, Heal +11, Nature +11, Perception +11, Stealth +12
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Arcana +3, Athletics +2, Bluff +2, Diplomacy +2, Endurance +3, History +3, Insight +6, Intimidate +2, Religion +3, Streetwise +2, Thievery +7
POWERS
Basic Attack: Melee Basic Attack
Basic Attack: Ranged Basic Attack
Pack Outcast Utility: Body of the Wolf
Human Racial Power: Heroic Effort
Ranger Utility: Aspect of the Lurking Spider
Ranger Utility: Aspect of the Pack Wolf
Ranger Attack: Dual Weapon Attack
Multiple Class Attack: Power Strike
Ranger Utility 2: Ranger's Agility
Ranger Utility 5: Reactive Shift
Ranger Utility 6: Step of Morning Mist
FEATS
Level 1: Light Blade Expertise
Level 1: Spiked Chain Training
Level 2: Nimble Blade
Level 4: Weapon Focus (Light blade)
Level 6: Two-Weapon Fighting
ITEMS
Vicious Spiked chain +2 x1
Iron Armbands of Power (heroic tier) x1
Gauntlets of Blood (heroic tier) x1
Hide Armor x1
Collar of Recovery +1 x1
====== End ======
+ to hit 5 stat+3 level+1 class+1 feat +1 feat+2 CA+2 enhancement+3 proficiency=+18 (95%hit chance) +to damage 5 stat+2 enhancement +2 Item + 2 Power bonus (lurking spider) +1 feat +1 feat+1 feat=+14 Main hand: (19x.9 + 28.5 x.05)=18.525 Dual Weapon Attack 18.525 x .95=17.59875 Total AT-will DPR= 36.12375
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2 years ago ::
Oct 22, 2011 - 9:07PM
#1499
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Date Joined:
May 12, 2009
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Checking out if Druid can squeeze out some nice number Lv6 Human Druid 20 Wis Feats - Powerful Charge, Enraged Boar, Ferocious Tiger, Versatile Expertise, Mounts Items - Earthfall Totem +2, Vanguard QuarterStaff, Claw Gloves, Shard of Mage, Boar Power - Savage Rend Savage Rend +15 Attack - (5 Wis, 3 Level, 2 Enhancement, 2 CA, 1 Charge, 1 Enraged Boar, 1 Expertise) vs 18 Reflex 90% Accuracy 1d8 + 1d8 + 1d10 + 1d6 +14 Damage - (5 Wis, 2 Enhancement, 2 Charge, 2 Boar, 2 Tiger, 1 Mage Shard) 18-46 [32]
32 * 0.85 = 27.2 |+| 53 * 0.05 = 2.65 == 29.85 29.85 + 8.2 = 38.05 Not exactly the most impressive of numbers, but seeing a controllor doing it tho... (also he will be a beast mounted on a beast  ) 38 DPR (CA, Ch, Mount) Human Druid Beast Charger (6th), by Talamare No Class, No Race, Basic Charger - 20 STR, 15 DEX (I guess you need to use a race that gives +STR...) Background - Gritty Sergeant Rapier Feats - LBE, Nimble Blade, Powerful Charge, Mount Items - Vanguard Rapier, Bracers of Might, Horned Helm, Boar Melee Basic Attack 16 Attack (5 STR, 3 Level, 3 Prof, 1 Enh, 1 LBE, 1 NB, 2 CA) 85% Accuracy 1d8 + 1d8 + 1d6 + 11 (5 STR, 2 Bracers, 2 Charge, 1 Enh, 1 LBE) 14-33 [23.5] || 34-41 [37.5] Crit 23.5 * 0.8 = 18.8 |+| 37.5 * 0.05 = 1.875 = 20.675 20.675 + 8.2 = 28.87 29 DPR for not even caring what Class you are is a bit sad, I saw a level 30 No Class build that managed around 300 DPR which is also a bit sad
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2 years ago ::
Oct 23, 2011 - 1:24PM
#1500
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Date Joined:
Feb 13, 2006
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Lvl 1 Human Brutal Rogue 18 Dex 16 Str
Background- Gritty Sergeant Rapier, Theme- Pack Outcast
Feats- Vigilante Justice Style, Mark of Finding
Items- Rapier
Riposte Strike
+9 Attack (4 Dex, 3 Prof, 2 CA) 75% Accuracy
d8+2d6+7(4 Dex, 3 Str)10-27 [18.5] | [27] Crit
0.7*18.5 + 0.05*27 = 12.95 + 1.35 = 14.3
Riposte Interrupt / MBA
+8 Attack (3 Str, 3 Prof, 2 CA) 70% Accuracy
d8+2d6+6(3 Str, 3 Str)9-26 [17.5] | [26] Crit
0.65*17.5 + 0.05*26 = 11.375 + 1.3 = 12.675*0.75 = 9.506
Guarenteed DPR of 23.806
As soon as you get a generic +1 Rapier it will become:
Riposte Strike
+10 Attack (4 Dex, 3 Prof, 2 CA, 1 Enh) 80% Accuracy
d8+2d6+8(4 Dex, 3 Str, 1 Enh)11-28 [19.5] | 29-34 [31.5] Crit
0.75*19.5 + 0.05*31.5 = 14.625 + 1.575 = 16.2
Riposte Interrupt / MBA
+9 Attack (3 Str, 3 Prof, 2 CA, 1 Enh) 75% Accuracy
d8+2d6+7(3 Str, 3 Str, 1 Enh)10-27 [18.5] | 28-33 [30.5] Crit
0.7*18.5 + 0.05*30.5 = 12.95 + 1.525 = 14.475*0.80 = 11.58
DPR 27.78
Edits: fixed riposte interrupt accuracy. Credit Talamare.
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