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3 years ago ::
Dec 16, 2009 - 12:26PM
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I really don't like them (too weird/exotic), but one of my players told me that I have to use them. Is this true?
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3 years ago ::
Dec 16, 2009 - 12:28PM
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You are not obligated to do so, but you would have to tell that to your players and see if anyone of them wants to play one. If one wants to play one, it would be a bad choice to ban them because you do not like them, don't you think?
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3 years ago ::
Dec 16, 2009 - 12:33PM
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If you were playing in Living Forgotten Realms or some other 'official' RPGA game, then you'd have to. I do agree with the above poster that banning things because you don't like them is silly. I used to do it, and I was wrong to do so.
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3 years ago ::
Dec 16, 2009 - 12:35PM
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I used to do it, and I was wrong to do so.
Mea Culpa, my friend, mea culpa. I was guilty of this as well. Today? Hell yeah, give me your plot hooks by playing some weird race. I won't punish you, but I'll make use of the given hooks!
Also important notice: If you choose to include Dragonborn for one player alone, do not punish him for his choice. We play RPG's to flee the real world and if you keep slugging racist stuff at him because he plays a Dragonborn you'll probably have one pissed player right there.
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3 years ago ::
Dec 16, 2009 - 12:40PM
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You don't HAVE to do anything. However, I think its a good policy to try to be accomodating to reasonable player requests and asking to play a race that is in the PHB falls under my definition of "reasonable". If they didn't fit in my particular campaign world I might say something like "Well, here's why they won't fit in my campaign [insert explanation here], but if you can come up with a good way to make your character fit, let me know and if I agree it fits, knock yourself out"
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3 years ago ::
Dec 16, 2009 - 12:40PM
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Simple answer: No, you don't HAVE to allow them in your games. It's a bit douche-baggish to tell a player that wants to play one that, but ultimately it's your choice as DM. If you can offer a valid explanation as to why you don't want them in your game, it might make telling your players "no" a little easier, and you won't come off as a power-tripping DM. Smart-Butt Answer: Yes. If you don't allow them in your game, then you will be putting helpless Dragonborn out on the street. It's the Holidays, man! Don't put Dragonborn out on the street, especially at the Holidays! Think of all the little-bitty Dragonborn babies that will go hungry because you didn't let their daddy adventure in your world! Do it for the kids, man! The kids! 
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3 years ago ::
Dec 16, 2009 - 12:40PM
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Date Joined:
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I really don't like them (too weird/exotic), but one of my players told me that I have to use them. Is this true?
not any more true then i have to use elves in my games.
the main problem is between player & GM expectation. most players expect the PHB content to be fair game, so ruling out a PHB race/class/feat/ect... will require some explaining and mutual understanding.
remember that a GM is a host, and while the players are expected to follow your rules, you're also expected to run a game they would like to play. have a pregame session for character & setting generation to iron out the finer points and discuss things as a group.
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3 years ago ::
Dec 16, 2009 - 12:42PM
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I used to do it, and I was wrong to do so.
Mea Culpa, my friend, mea culpa. I was guilty of this as well. Today? Hell yeah, give me your plot hooks by playing some weird race. I won't punish you, but I'll make use of the given hooks!
Also important notice: If you choose to include Dragonborn for one player alone, do not punish him for his choice. We play RPG's to flee the real world and if you keep slugging racist stuff at him because he plays a Dragonborn you'll probably have one pissed player right there.
Wasn't even a weird race. I banned elves (along with a bunch of other stuff, but for one player, this was the proverbial last straw. He literally will not play anything else.)
Another day, another three or four entries to my Ignore List.
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3 years ago ::
Dec 16, 2009 - 12:43PM
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Date Joined:
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We play RPG's to flee the real world and if you keep slugging racist stuff at him because he plays a Dragonborn you'll probably have one pissed player right there.
Depends. He might be playing the character because he wants to play an outcast (I enjoy that type of character from time to time, anyway). Can't really be an outcast if everyone is all accepting of you and everything.
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3 years ago ::
Dec 16, 2009 - 12:44PM
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Date Joined:
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Step 1) You ban things that you don't like with no regard towards what your players want.
Step 2) Your players have less fun with your campaign.
Step 3) You have less fun with your campaign.
Step 4) ???
Step 5) Don't Profit.
Seriously, D&D isn't played just for the DM's amusement. What the players want is also important, and if the players aren't having as much fun, then you won't be having as much fun either. I swear, if I banned ever PC that I didn't initially like, I don't think I would have had as much fun DMing for my players as I have.
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