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3 years ago ::
Nov 30, 2009 - 3:16PM
#41
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The three I don't want to see are Dragonlance, Greyhawk and Planescape.
Dragonlance was a dead setting from the get go. It spent years going backwards in time, not forwards, and it never recovered. Every book was about pre-history, all the way back to the beginning of time. Eventually they tried to move it forward, but the setting had fossilized so much by that point that trying to move it forward caused a visceral hatred of the new material amongst almost every oldschool Dragonlance fan I've ever personally known or met.
Greyhawk eventually dwindled away, becoming overshadowed by it's competitor Forgotten Realms, which fills the exact same fantasy setting role.
Planescape is hardcore personal bias on my part, I never liked the flavor it tried to bring to the planes. It made them go from magical to boring in my (very biased) opinion.
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3 years ago ::
Nov 30, 2009 - 3:21PM
#42
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I agree on everything but planescape planescape made the great wheel bearable. But with the great wheel gone Im sure it could be more interesting.
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3 years ago ::
Nov 30, 2009 - 4:28PM
#43
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Date Joined:
Jun 30, 2008
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Actually Dragonlance does bring something that is unique to the table. Well it's in it's name, the dragons. Dragons play a bigger role in Dragonlance than they do in any other setting. Dragonborn and Tieflings would not fit in the Dragonlance setting through, unless they changed the Dragonborn around and made them more like honorable Draconians or something. Gnomes would have to be changed as well because in that setting they are different than typical gnomes and they were never fey. I believe the lightness on magic is also something unique to Dragonlance.
Wow... a Dungeons & DRAGONS setting where DRAGONS are a big deal! Imagine that.
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Dragons are a big deal in Eberron too, if a tad remote (Draconic Prophecy?!).
Frankly I'm so TIRED of Dragons always being More Awesomer Than Everything And Especially You. Its why I don't really care much for Iomandra (I think that's the name of the dev setting that's in the Wikis here?) where Dragons are the de-facto leader of the world.
I know dragons are cool and everything but the world doesn't have to revolve around them!
Lightness of Magic doesn't really change much, it just makes Wizard PCs MORE AWESOME because they happen to be rarer (I'm sure a Wizard Player like yourself Xun would LOVE that), but it wouldn't impact the mechanics in any way. Dark Sun is also light in magic from what I hear because magic hurt the World.
I love Horseshoecrabfolk.
What I love most about them is that they seem to be the one thing that we all can agree on.
See for yourself, click here!
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3 years ago ::
Nov 30, 2009 - 4:38PM
#44
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- Hero Craftsman Gold Medalist
Date Joined:
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You know what would be great for all dragonkind?
A Renaissance/Age of Exploration setting where many of the old dragons take the form of investment bankers. The hoard was usurped by the Trust Fund, a steady increase of 1% compounded yearly is perfect for a thousand year old wyrm, and the ideals of mercantilism flourish within the Draconic Market.
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3 years ago ::
Nov 30, 2009 - 4:49PM
#45
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Date Joined:
Jun 30, 2008
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You know what would be great for all dragonkind?
A Renaissance/Age of Exploration setting where many of the old dragons take the form of investment bankers. The hoard was usurped by the Trust Fund, a steady increase of 1% compounded yearly is perfect for a thousand year old wyrm, and the ideals of mercantilism flourish within the Draconic Market.
Hahaha I like that ^^
You really don't want to skip a mortgage payment when your banker's a dragon :p though would a Black Dragon's hoard be considered 'Toxic assets'?
A Renaissance/Age of Exploration setting would be really cool to begin with. Its something I'd like to come up on my own too but I have trouble finding from which end I should start jotting stuff down ^^;
I love Horseshoecrabfolk.
What I love most about them is that they seem to be the one thing that we all can agree on.
See for yourself, click here!
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3 years ago ::
Nov 30, 2009 - 4:51PM
#46
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Date Joined:
Jan 22, 2008
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You know what would be great for all dragonkind?
A Renaissance/Age of Exploration setting where many of the old dragons take the form of investment bankers. The hoard was usurped by the Trust Fund, a steady increase of 1% compounded yearly is perfect for a thousand year old wyrm, and the ideals of mercantilism flourish within the Draconic Market.
Hahaha I like that ^^
You really don't want to skip a mortgage payment when your banker's a dragon :p though would a Black Dragon's hoard be considered 'Toxic assets'?
A Renaissance/Age of Exploration setting would be really cool to begin with. Its something I'd like to come up on my own too but I have trouble finding from which end I should start jotting stuff down ^^;
+1 an age of exploration setting would be amazing
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3 years ago ::
Nov 30, 2009 - 5:38PM
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I believe I agree with the majority (or at least plurality) saying that a new setting would be ideal.
Follow-up question to that, though, what kind of new setting could they have that, itself, doesn't overlap too much with FR, Eb., or DS?
Couple thoughts:
- A "bad guys won, cranked to 11" setting, although this isn't entirely new if you count Midnight, as someone has mentioned
- A modern setting, although, this would overlap Eberron somewhat. A future setting? I'm working on homebrewing a future setting, sort of a cross between Spelljammer and Babylon 5.
The world is a mess, I just need to... rule it.
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3 years ago ::
Nov 30, 2009 - 6:04PM
#48
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Date Joined:
Aug 29, 2007
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I'd like to see a Points of Light core setting for 4e, with a unified mythological background for the gods instead of a bunch of names and powers thrown into a hat, which is what the current mythos feels like to me. A setting designed from the ground up for 4e, instead of a conversion that no one is satisfied with (I'm looking at you, Forgotten Realms). A setting where Bael Turath is an actual ruin you can explore, not a name tossed out to give Tieflings a common origin. And yes, I'd like to see 4e Greyhawk, even if I disagree with every revision they make.  Give it to Monte Cook and tell him to surprise us - -
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3 years ago ::
Nov 30, 2009 - 6:40PM
#49
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Date Joined:
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Actually Dragonlance does bring something that is unique to the table. Well it's in it's name, the dragons. Dragons play a bigger role in Dragonlance than they do in any other setting. Dragonborn and Tieflings would not fit in the Dragonlance setting through, unless they changed the Dragonborn around and made them more like honorable Draconians or something. Gnomes would have to be changed as well because in that setting they are different than typical gnomes and they were never fey. I believe the lightness on magic is also something unique to Dragonlance.
Slight changes to the races and adding more dragons, while it does add something to make it a bit different from FR, really doesn't do anything to distinguish it from FR. (For the record, if DL had been released first, we would be making the same arguments against it as we are making now against DL). You need to look at it in the viewpoint of someone who is getting into D&D and is asking for a one or two sentence description of the setting. For it to be really effective and stand out on its own, the description has to describe the feel of the setting.
As I said before -
The Forgotten Realms is probably one of the best examples of a "high-fantasy" setting. (So are any number of other D&D settings, but FR is the most well known.)
Eberron is magic-punk with a lot of intrigue and mystery.
Dark sun is a post-apocalyptic setting with no gods left.
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3 years ago ::
Nov 30, 2009 - 6:41PM
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XunValDorl_of_HouseKilsek
Date Joined:
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I'd like to see a Points of Light core setting for 4e, with a unified mythological background for the gods instead of a bunch of names and powers thrown into a hat, which is what the current mythos feels like to me. A setting designed from the ground up for 4e, instead of a conversion that no one is satisfied with (I'm looking at you, Forgotten Realms). A setting where Bael Turath is an actual ruin you can explore, not a name tossed out to give Tieflings a common origin.
And yes, I'd like to see 4e Greyhawk, even if I disagree with every revision they make. Give it to Monte Cook and tell him to surprise us - -
I think Points of Light would essentially be Greyhawk. I would love to see an Elric of Melnibone type world.
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