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3 years ago ::
Nov 30, 2009 - 12:52PM
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DL has NOTHING really interesting it's high fantasy like FR but done worse.
It's not that bad. To me, DL was always a "high fantasy where the bad guys won"-type setting. It is a nice setting, but I prefer Midnight (which is the bad-guys won scenario dialed up to 11) for that type of setting.
The characters from the books always outshine what PC's can do.
That's something that happens in almost every setting that has had books written about it. Books don't have to follow initiative order, HP or any other rule that is written for the setting. Heck, if a setting should have not been published because characters in books can do more stuff better than PCs, you should be pointing that finger at FR (pre-spellplague) and all of its various NPC characters.
Judging the quality of a setting based on the novels that are based in that setting does not make a whole lot of sense to me. It's like not liking chocolate because there are too many letters with curves in the word "chocolate".
My guess is that the setting that they announce at GenCon 2010 will be a brand-new setting.
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3 years ago ::
Nov 30, 2009 - 12:57PM
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My guess is that the setting that they announce at GenCon 2010 will be a brand-new setting.
If I were a betting man, that's where I'd put my money too.
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3 years ago ::
Nov 30, 2009 - 1:21PM
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My guess is that the setting that they announce at GenCon 2010 will be a brand-new setting.
If I were a betting man, that's where I'd put my money too.
God I hope so. Enough of publishing the same tired worn out worlds. Lets see something new and interesting.
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3 years ago ::
Nov 30, 2009 - 1:35PM
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I don't think so. They want to make sure that none of the settings really cannibalizes the audiences for the other settings.
THIS! This is VERY important. When too many setting appeal to a similar audiance they end up selling less.
You can spin Dragonlance any way you want and boast about its 'rich History' and 'potential' all you want... at the end of the day its not a different enough concept from Forgotten Realms, even if their History and society aren't the same. If you can expain it as "Its like setting X but with Y instead of Z" then its not really different enough.
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3 years ago ::
Nov 30, 2009 - 2:23PM
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Personally, I want a Magical Realism setting, like Harry Potter, Dresden Files, Charmed, Faefever, etc. (aka, Urban Fantasy, Modern Fantasy, Paranormal Romance, etc.). Not like d20 Modern, but actual Wizard, Paladin, Psion, and Druid classes for the 21st century.
Magical Realism cant be 'the' setting for D&D 4e that must get its flavor from antiquity. But Id like to see Magical Realism as an alternative setting.
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3 years ago ::
Nov 30, 2009 - 2:28PM
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Jan 22, 2008
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Personally, I want a Magical Realism setting, like Harry Potter, Dresden Files, Charmed, Faefever, etc. (aka, Urban Fantasy, Modern Fantasy, etc.). Not like d20 Modern, but actual Wizard, Paladin, Psion, and Druid classes for the 21st century.
Magical Realism cant be 'the' setting for D&D 4e that must get its flavor from antiquity. But Id like to see Magical Realism as an alternative setting.
Wow that would be very cool an Urban arcane setting would be awsome. Then again I love Kim Harrison and Jim Butcher.
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3 years ago ::
Nov 30, 2009 - 2:32PM
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At this point, 4E is about a year and a half old. The edition has grown and changed a lot in such a short amount of time (for better or for worse), and we have two current campaign settings with another in the works. So, my questions to you all are these: which of the many past campaign settings does 4E need to reintroduce? How many does it need? Should it continue its current strategy of releasing a setting to the public and then moving on, or should it focus on each for a longer period? Should we see brand-new settings?
In my opinion, it's neither possible nor beneficial for WotC to reprint every older setting, and so each one needs to be carefully chosen to appeal to a specific niche. Of the three we know of so far, Forgotten Realms offers traditional Western fantasy of the sort most non-gamers probably think of when they hear "D&D," Eberron offers a more urban, steampunk setting, and Dark Sun offers horror and survival adventures. What other niches need to be filled? What settings would serve best at filling them?
For convenience's sake, here's a brief list of all the previous settings we've seen, along with its editions and miscellaneous notes. If I've missed any or made any mistakes, please let me know.
+ Dark Sun: 2nd, 4th
+ Eberron: 3.5th, 4th
+ Forgotten Realms: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 3.5th, 4th
- Al-Qadim: 2nd (Later folded into the Realms)
- Birthright: 2nd
- Blackmoor: 1st, 2nd, 3rd (Later folded into Mystara)
- Dragonlance: 1st, 2nd, 3rd
- Greyhawk: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 3.5th (The "default" setting for 3E and 3.5E)
- Kara-Tur: 1st (Later folded into the Realms)
- Kingdoms of Kalamar: 3rd (License owned by Kenzer and Company)
- Maztica: 2nd (Later folded into the Realms)
- Mystara: 1st, 2nd
- Planescape: 2nd, 3rd (Contradicted in 4E Manual of the Planes)
- Ravenloft: 1st, 2nd (Later folded into the Shadowfell)
- Rokugan: 3rd (License owned by Alderac Entertainment)
- Spelljammer: 2nd (Referenced in 4E Manual of the Planes)
Blackmoor has been done in 4e, it was done by Code Monkey Press. I believe it is now out of print. Kingdoms of Kalamar has also received a 4e conversion. Mystara would be awesome to see redone as a campaign setting! Greyhawk also needs to make a comeback as well.
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3 years ago ::
Nov 30, 2009 - 2:48PM
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< William: Kim Harrison. >
Did she write White Witch Black Curse? Fun book.
*Smirk* I can deal with the female first person if the story has enough spellcasting to keep my interest. I get embarassed when I have to get my books from the 'Romance' section. But the Paranormal Romance genre is Magical Realsim. .. Must..have..scifi.
My favorite is when the (male) Wizard is the action hero. Clean cut and tough. When the 'King Aurthur' archetype is 'Merlin' himself.
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3 years ago ::
Nov 30, 2009 - 2:58PM
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XunValDorl_of_HouseKilsek
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Actually Dragonlance does bring something that is unique to the table. Well it's in it's name, the dragons. Dragons play a bigger role in Dragonlance than they do in any other setting. Dragonborn and Tieflings would not fit in the Dragonlance setting through, unless they changed the Dragonborn around and made them more like honorable Draconians or something. Gnomes would have to be changed as well because in that setting they are different than typical gnomes and they were never fey. I believe the lightness on magic is also something unique to Dragonlance.
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3 years ago ::
Nov 30, 2009 - 3:00PM
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< William: Kim Harrison. >
Did she write White Witch Black Curse? Fun book.
*Smirk* I can deal with the female first person if the story has enough spellcasting to keep my interest. I get embarassed when I have to get my books from the 'Romance' section. But the Paranormal Romance genre is Magical Realsim. .. Must..have..scifi.
My favorite is when the (male) Wizard is the action hero. Clean cut and tough. When the 'King Aurthur' archetype is 'Merlin'.
LOL well I read some other romance books as well so I don't mind going in there. And yes she did write that book. I like both male and female leads.
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