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Homosexuality and Forgotten Realms Dieties
4 months ago  ::  Nov 19, 2009 - 7:42PM #1
volin
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I've never seen this forum before, and I'm glad I happened upon it.  I think it is a good opportunity for me to field a question I have been looking for a discussion of for some time now.  

If homosexuality exists in Faerun, then how do the gods feel about it?  The gods of Earth seem to have some differing but mostly negative views of the concept, how do these otherworldly beings feel?  To be honest, I just want to hear some opinions on the matter.
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4 months ago  ::  Nov 19, 2009 - 11:32PM #2
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I don't see any reason to believe homosexuality wouldn't exist in Faerun. Also, just as with the many gods and religions on Earth, I would imagine that clerics of different religions on Faerun will have varrying views depending on the profile of their god, and it also wouldn't be unreasonable to suggest that even clerics of the same god may not agree on the matter.

However, how you handle the matter should probably reflect whether your players are simulationist or escapist. Do they want to role-play serious subject matter with unpleasant real-world equivalents or would they rather play their gay character without needing to worry about such things?

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4 months ago  ::  Nov 20, 2009 - 3:26AM #3
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Not only would the gods tolerate this, they'd be joining in for the most part.  Many of the Greek gods had same sex lovers at one stage or another.  Gods aren't exactly people, they're embodiments, so the sex of the mortal they're shagging is often incidental.
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4 months ago  ::  Nov 20, 2009 - 7:44AM #4
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Faerun is like Iran - nobody is homosexual.  :P

Bad joke over, I think you'd be better served posting in the FR sections of the boards as the posters there are typically much, much more knowledgeable about everything FR than those anywhere else. 
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4 months ago  ::  Nov 20, 2009 - 9:01PM #5
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You say knowledgeable, i say obsessive.

My take on the FR's gods are that they are pretty close to the very faliable greek and roman gods. With gods being formed out of other gods being carstrated, by a god eating another god suddenly getting a headache, then having a god spring out of his head, or by one god being cut in half, or having human looking gods having there heads cut off and replaced with an elephants head.

Whats sex to a creature who is not a physical entity, but a entity of divine energy. Sure some of the demi-gods might have opinions (being more mortal then god) & some churches may state a dislike with no religious basis beyond there own prejudice (kind of like real life), but i dont see it phasing someone as powerful as mystra (may she rest in peace).

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4 months ago  ::  Nov 22, 2009 - 11:52AM #6
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I am guessing this is non-applicable, as its 3.0/3.5 or earlier, but Ed Greenwood in the So Saith Ed has stated that people in FR have fluid sexuality and rarely give a crap about the gender of who someone is boinking, unless it is a noble marriage (And then its only to get kids). I think Faiths and Panethons from 3.0 has stated that Lliira spent...Some 'time' with a female follower. It is also never stated what people Tymora has dalliances with.

I should state that the So Saith Ed is so NSFW.

So, unless the spellplague made the gods crazy, I guess they don't care?
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4 months ago  ::  Nov 22, 2009 - 2:24PM #7
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Since it is a game in a highly detailed fantasy world, I suggest you read everything you can concerning the gods in the Realms. Probably start with the campaign book. Even then, nothing will be said in the books, as what you ask is rather beyond the scope of the game as presented.
So, the DM will have to decide how such issues are dealt with in his world image of the Realms.
Also, real-world religions have nothing whatsoever to do with pretend, fantasy religions.

It is simply something we are not concerned about when we gather to play.
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4 months ago  ::  Nov 23, 2009 - 10:31AM #8
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Nov 20, 2009 -- 9:01PM, saint_matthew wrote:

You say knowledgeable, i say obsessive.




You wanna know something about the Realms?  Ask someone that's obsessed with the Realms.

In all seriousness, this stuff ain't in no book.  The people that are the most familiar with the subject material (gods, NPCs, events of note) are going to be the people that can take something not part of the official world and tell you how the official world would see it, IMO. 

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4 months ago  ::  Nov 23, 2009 - 10:53AM #9
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All I'll say is they have a flaming sun deity called the "morning lord".

Seriously though, there's about as much homosexuality as the player's at the table put into it.  You won't see any WotC sourcebook that touches the topic with a ten foot pole, and if I'm wrong I'll bite my hat1.


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4 months ago  ::  Nov 23, 2009 - 11:03AM #10
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Hey, hey, that Morning Lord is in a very happy relationship with the MILF, thank you.

If you wish to include such elements in the campaign, have you discussed this with the DM and see how they feel? They might be willing to go where the Editorial Mandate won't.

Which Region/Edition is this, anyway?
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