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The paladin/warlock section brings a bit too much power to the table for hybrids, IMO.
And modifying the racial power permanently is something completely new, and (always IMO and at a first analysis) a bit risky on the mechanical side. How would the new type of Wraths interact with previous feats that piggy-backed on the original one? A bit messy.

I see this as an admittance of how bad infernal wrath actually is.  The new powers scale, they're generally better, and they give tieflings some new options that are flavorful and potentially powerful.  Paladin/warlock is not a typical combination, but sounds cool for tieflings.  As does the hellfire wizard, or the devil-descended intimidating rogue.  In all, I like it.

Nov 17, 2009 -- 6:08AM, LordArchaon wrote:

The paladin/warlock section brings a bit too much power to the table for hybrids, IMO.
And modifying the racial power permanently is something completely new, and (always IMO and at a first analysis) a bit risky on the mechanical side. How would the new type of Wraths interact with previous feats that piggy-backed on the original one? A bit messy.

If I recall, the tiefling racial feats that modify Infernal Wrath always included Infernal Wrath as a requirement. I doubt that these replacements are imbalanced because of the opportunity cost: to make the best use of multiclassing, you already have to spend quite a lot of feats, and now these come on top (or somewhere in the middle).

Although, you did say hybrids specifically, but I seriously doubt we can be the judge there yet - we only have the playtest versions of those rules. I imagine, since this article is credited to Mike Mearls, that he has a good idea of what the final hybrid rules look like and was able to take them into consideration. We do know that hybrids give up quite a lot of class features, and this article goes a long way to making those hybrid options more exciting for tielings from a background perspective - hybrids are supposed to reflect characters of unusual backgrounds, after all.

Nov 17, 2009 -- 6:50AM, ZanderKreegan wrote:

Now Paladin's Wrath... Geez, Tiefling Chaladins are probably the best mass-markers in the game now.

EDIT: My other issue is no clarification on how the feats that replace Infernal Wrath interact with one another. What if my Warlock|Paladin takes Warlock's Wrath and Paladin's Wrath? When do I choose between them? Do I get both? etc.

I'm guessing that a tiefling "Chaladin" is also going to be putting himself at more risk than the tougher races of the same class by marking so many enemies.

Regarding the infernal wrath swaps, according to the rules provided, only the feat you took first would replace infernal wrath - you still get the other benefits from both feats. Surely the DM would let the given tiefling swap those two feats with a retraining.

Nov 17, 2009 -- 6:50AM, ZanderKreegan wrote:

Nov 17, 2009 -- 6:24AM, Ekio wrote:

Diabolic Transformation is imba, seriously.

Meh it's a daily, which, depending on how many encounters your party sees in a day, could severely limit it.

Yes, well, generally we don't get more combats than three, maybe four, a day. Regeneration and a damage bonus for an entire encounter plus a one-use power that is quite nice... pretty tough feat, esp. as it has no other requirements.
I just leveled, I think I'm retraining one of my feats for this one (it fits thematically as well)...

Gomez