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Switch to Forum Live View The Most Annoying Rogue Ever - Optimized Halfling Rogue
3 months ago  ::  Mar 02, 2013 - 5:49AM #321
Doobledigoop
Date Joined: Dec 28, 2012
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Mar 1, 2013 -- 4:22PM, RenZhe wrote:

It was basically solved in another rogue thread a while ago that a well-optimized daggermaster rogue outputs about 46 DPR at level 12 without using frost. Frostcheese brings that up to about 55 DPR. At that level, daggermaster/crit optimization is worth about 6 DPR, and being a Brutal Scoundrel is another 5 or so. Since this build is neither, you can just back that out of your expected output.




Could you provide a link to that thread?

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3 months ago  ::  Mar 02, 2013 - 2:24PM #322
RenZhe
Date Joined: Apr 3, 2011
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Here

And no, AC won't deviate either way. You can get to exactly the amount of AC the original build gets to nowadays by offhanding a Shielding Blade Dagger and wearing Elven Chain Shirt.
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 02, 2013 - 3:31PM #323
Maxwell_Wolfen
Date Joined: Apr 11, 2011
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Mar 2, 2013 -- 2:24PM, RenZhe wrote:

Here

And no, AC won't deviate either way. You can get to exactly the amount of AC the original build gets to nowadays by offhanding a Shielding Blade Dagger and wearing Elven Chain Shirt.




thank you very much RenZhe

can you please look at the build and suggest which feats to replace with those of improved initiative? thanky

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2 months ago  ::  Mar 10, 2013 - 1:01PM #324
Abdiel324
Date Joined: Jun 22, 2012
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Hey everyone,

The answer may be obvious but I've done google searches and read through this thread several times without finding the answer.

Is there a reason I can't find the following feats in the D&D character builder?

Level 1: Shield Proficiency (Light)
Level 2: Blade and Buckler Duelist

I'm building the character out by pen and paper in the meantime, but I found that very strange.

Thanks for the help! 
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2 months ago  ::  Mar 10, 2013 - 1:08PM #325
Matyr
Date Joined: Jun 19, 2004
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Mar 10, 2013 -- 1:01PM, Abdiel324 wrote:

Hey everyone,

The answer may be obvious but I've done google searches and read through this thread several times without finding the answer.

Is there a reason I can't find the following feats in the D&D character builder?

Level 1: Shield Proficiency (Light)
Level 2: Blade and Buckler Duelist

I'm building the character out by pen and paper in the meantime, but I found that very strange.

Thanks for the help! 




Try other combindations.  Shield Proficiency: Light or something similar.  It does exist, my rogue has it.  Also, Blade and Buckler Duelist has a prereq of having the light shield.  So when you find the one, the other will start showing up as well.

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2 months ago  ::  Mar 10, 2013 - 2:06PM #326
rjsilverthorn
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Not sure if you are following this build exactly, but if you aren't then make sure you actually have 13 Str at the level you are trying to take it. 
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2 months ago  ::  Mar 18, 2013 - 1:37PM #327
darkwarlock
Date Joined: Jan 11, 2005
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I don't understand why the non-frostcheese 11th level snapshot build utilizes a master's blade weapon. Is it building towards something later, in which case wouldn't another item be more useful at this stage (I haven't studied the build beyond hitting paragon)? I see no advantage to a character without stance powers.
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2 months ago  ::  Mar 18, 2013 - 2:39PM #328
masteraleph
Date Joined: Jun 12, 2012
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Mar 10, 2013 -- 1:01PM, Abdiel324 wrote:

Hey everyone,

The answer may be obvious but I've done google searches and read through this thread several times without finding the answer.

Is there a reason I can't find the following feats in the D&D character builder?

Level 1: Shield Proficiency (Light)
Level 2: Blade and Buckler Duelist

I'm building the character out by pen and paper in the meantime, but I found that very strange.

Thanks for the help! 




I know that I'm a week late here, but:

Shield Proficiency: Light is the title.  Note that it requires STR 13, and won't appear in the CB unless you have that.
Blade and Buckler Duelist has shield proficiency as a prerequisite, so it won't appear until you've take shield proficiency. 

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2 months ago  ::  Mar 21, 2013 - 10:24AM #329
darkwarlock
Date Joined: Jan 11, 2005
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Not sure if it got lost because of the intermediary post, but I still don't understand the choice of Master's Blade weapon. Anyone?
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2 months ago  ::  Mar 21, 2013 - 10:45AM #330
nmNighteyes
Date Joined: Apr 4, 2010
Posts: 21
honestly i think it's because noone knows
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