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Switch to Forum Live View The Most Annoying Rogue Ever - Optimized Halfling Rogue
2 months ago  ::  Mar 21, 2013 - 12:46PM #331
Koshinuke
Date Joined: Feb 23, 2012
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Mar 21, 2013 -- 10:24AM, darkwarlock wrote:

Not sure if it got lost because of the intermediary post, but I still don't understand the choice of Master's Blade weapon. Anyone?




The only reason to take master's blade would be to get the +1 to attacks with mbas and at wills while in a stance.  I have not looked to see what stances he took but +1 to attack rolls matters.

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2 months ago  ::  Mar 21, 2013 - 1:23PM #332
nmNighteyes
Date Joined: Apr 4, 2010
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true, but there is not a single stance in the build that i can see...
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2 months ago  ::  Mar 21, 2013 - 2:38PM #333
rjsilverthorn
Date Joined: Feb 19, 2006
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Mar 21, 2013 -- 1:23PM, nmNighteyes wrote:

true, but there is not a single stance in the build that i can see...




Kiss of Death is a stance. Duelist's Prowess is a stance as well, although that is retrained. I still think you could probably come up with a better weapon choice than that, considering both stances are Daily powers. It's possible its a relic from an earlier version of the build, as there are a couple others in there like replacing Snap Shot at 17 even though he never takes Snap Shot. 

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2 months ago  ::  Mar 21, 2013 - 2:52PM #334
pinkisthenewred
Date Joined: Jan 1, 2013
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Isn't this build 3 years old without being updated? Maybe that's the reason for some issues.
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2 months ago  ::  Mar 21, 2013 - 2:58PM #335
rjsilverthorn
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Mar 21, 2013 -- 2:52PM, pinkisthenewred wrote:

Isn't this build 3 years old without being updated? Maybe that's the reason for some issues.




It was updated a couple times after it was first posted, although still probably around 2 years since it was updated. I think part of the problem is that he made some partial updates, but never went back over the whole build from the ground up.

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2 months ago  ::  Mar 21, 2013 - 3:18PM #336
darkwarlock
Date Joined: Jan 11, 2005
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That sounds like a challenge to a worthy undertaking! Who's up to it?
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2 months ago  ::  Mar 21, 2013 - 4:19PM #337
rjsilverthorn
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Wouldn't require all that much work really. The frost build could use a bit of updating for some more recent options, but it's pretty solid as is. There are definitely some changes I'd make if I were going to play it myself, but that is personal preference more than any real deficiency with the build. 
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2 months ago  ::  Mar 22, 2013 - 3:26AM #338
Matyr
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My solution, sadly, is to work on my Rogue defender instead (which is still in playtest phase right now).  I should be finishing a fairly broad strokes paragon playtest here within the next 2 months.
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2 months ago  ::  Mar 22, 2013 - 4:09AM #339
darkwarlock
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Short of reworking the entire build, then, what would people substitute for the master's blade weapon for an 11th level rogue of this build? I've been deliberately avoiding the frostcheese route as our fighter has already gone down that path, but is frost the clear answer to synergize with him? Is there another weapon that suits this build's strengths more directly?
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2 months ago  ::  Mar 22, 2013 - 5:32AM #340
Matyr
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Mar 22, 2013 -- 4:09AM, darkwarlock wrote:

Short of reworking the entire build, then, what would people substitute for the master's blade weapon for an 11th level rogue of this build? I've been deliberately avoiding the frostcheese route as our fighter has already gone down that path, but is frost the clear answer to synergize with him? Is there another weapon that suits this build's strengths more directly?




Goblin Totem is easy enough.

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