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2 years ago ::
Nov 01, 2011 - 11:50AM
#271
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Date Joined:
Jun 14, 2009
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Is it just me, or does the Yakuza theme look really silly good with this build?
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1 year ago ::
Dec 12, 2011 - 12:57PM
#272
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Date Joined:
Jul 20, 2010
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I had tons of fun with this build. The new chainmail shirt boosts AC some more. It's also fun when you buy lots and lots of daggers. Get a pinning dagger, immobilize the elite solo monster, use Phantom Chaseures (sp?) to conceal, stay adjacent to keep him immobile, have your party move out of range of his best moves, and then let everyone plink away while he has only two choices: 1. Attack, miss the rogue, and take riposte damage 2. Make a non-optimal ranged attack, get hit by an opportunity attack with sneak attack, and barely do any damage.
Other fun? Take heavy blade and get a githyanki (sp?) long knife. Use item dailies to send the solo elite away for a turn. He'll get no attacks for two rounds, but get hit by you and your buddies.
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1 year ago ::
Jan 25, 2012 - 7:39PM
#273
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Date Joined:
Dec 21, 2011
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Great guide!
If I can't take gritty sergeant because of the campaign's setting should I take rapier proficiency at all? if so when is a good time to take it?
Sorry if this is already asked, there's so many replies to the thread now, and afaik it hasn't (from searching).
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1 year ago ::
Jan 25, 2012 - 8:35PM
#274
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Date Joined:
Nov 19, 2001
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Your prolly better off with a dagger anyways, both are very comparible in damage. So yeah if you can't take the background just go dagger.
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1 year ago ::
Jan 26, 2012 - 7:18AM
#275
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Date Joined:
Dec 21, 2011
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Hmm I was thinking maybe, since x[w] becomes sad when using a dagger, I might take rapier instead of light blade expertise and only switch back later when it starts scaling in paragon/epic
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1 year ago ::
Jan 27, 2012 - 4:40AM
#276
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Date Joined:
Jul 18, 2009
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Oh, wow. How have I never seen this thread before? I'm actually currently building a character that's very much like this. It would have helped to have read this thread in the first place, because I felt like I was building my character from the ground up. Oh, well. No new ideas under the sun, right? Anyway, I'm currently level 6, so the build isn't exactly in full-swing yet, but it's still very good at what it does. I've got Two-Weapon Fighting, Two-Weapon Defense, Defensive Mobility, and Opportunity Knocks, and my character is a Halfling Artful Dodger rogue, very much like what you described in your opening post. Right now, my AC is 22, I think, and it springs up to 29 on Opportunity Attacks. At level 7, I'll actually be re-training Defensive Mobility to Weapon Proficiency: Parrying Dagger, because I'd have the same defense vs OAs, but my "standard" AC would be higher.
Like I said, I'm at 22 AC right now, with 29 vs Opportunity Attacks. With a Parrying Dagger Rhythm Blade, I'd be up to 24 AC, while remaining at 29 vs OAs. I didn't know about the Parrying Dagger thing at first, or I'd have done that to begin with. Anyway, I'm wondering what kinds of other tricks I can use to increase my mobility and elusiveness? As far as Items go, I'm looking at Boots of the Fencing Master, because I could potentially gain the bonus every single round by Shifting as a Move Action, and using Deft Strike for positioning. As long as I can provoke an Opportunity Attack, I should be able to maintain Combat Advantage, as well.
Cloak of Distortion looks great, too. But I saw that you suggested the Cloak of Displacement. Which do you feel is stronger, overall?
All in all, I really like this character. I'm actually pretty happy about giving up a bit of the character's stopping power to increase his survivability via elusiveness. It feels very "in character". This is actually the first character I've built in 4th edition that plays very much the same way I, like, imagine him actually fighting. Does that make sense? He's just this little halfling rogue, who's tumbling around the battlefield, ducking and rolling underneath enemy attacks so he can catch them off-guard with low slashes of his own.
So far, this is an awful lot of fun.
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1 year ago ::
Jan 27, 2012 - 3:27PM
#277
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Date Joined:
Nov 19, 2001
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Yeah I came up with this character concept because my little rogue would always go first and jump right for the archers/mages/ranged people in the back and then get swarmed on and beg for heals. So I thought it would be cool to make a character that was really really hard to hit. The idea is that you try to have defenses as high as possible so that halfling agility become alot more powerful. If your enemy only hits you on a 16+ then when you make them reroll they will probably miss. Thats why I choose items that add to your defenses over pretty much anything else.
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1 year ago ::
Feb 21, 2012 - 10:22AM
#278
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Date Joined:
Nov 21, 2008
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Philip,
First...thank you for all your hard work to make Halfling Rogues even more awesome.
Second...if you can put it in a nutshell, what would you say are the major advantages/disadvantages of each of your builds over the other (Frostcheese/Non-Frostcheese)?
Thank you,
Koll Underfoot, the slipperiest Halfling this side of Krynn (how's that for a throwback?)
[EDIT] Didn't you also have a Daggermaster version, or some other 3rd build, in your first post?
[EDIT #2] It looks as though some text has been clipped from that first post. It goes from "If you want more damage replace" as an unfinished sentence to "How much defense is too much?" I'm thinking I remember the Daggermaster build between there somewhere.
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1 year ago ::
Feb 27, 2012 - 7:46PM
#279
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Date Joined:
Nov 21, 2008
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Ok, does anyone have the Daggermaster/3rd build still available? Doesn't have to just be Philip, I understand he may be busy.
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1 year ago ::
Feb 27, 2012 - 8:30PM
#280
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Date Joined:
Jun 18, 2008
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Only difference is the paragon path if it is the frost cheese one. If I recall correctly.
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