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4 years ago ::
Oct 13, 2009 - 11:56PM
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if a character is dazed and they take an action then spend an action point. can they take th3e action that that grants? i say no because dazed grants you one action no matter what but i would like to hear what others have to say
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4 years ago ::
Oct 14, 2009 - 2:46AM
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I don't allow action points to be used when the character/monster is dazed. Although, I could be wrong and this could be a case of specific beats general, but I doubt it.
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4 years ago ::
Oct 14, 2009 - 3:07AM
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Spending an action point is a free action, and you can take free actions while dazed. My inclination is to read the dazed effect as describing the actions you normally have on your turn. So, I think you do get the extra action. (I think it fits in better with the thinking behind action points - it's a moment of heroic effort.) I wouldn't consider it outrageously mean of a DM to read it the other way around though.
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4 years ago ::
Oct 14, 2009 - 3:25AM
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May 13, 2009
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It's come up before and the general consensus (and I believe, rule, but I'm not sure) is that you can use Action Points while dazed and they still work to grant you an extra action.
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4 years ago ::
Oct 14, 2009 - 6:05AM
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Jan 24, 2009
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You can spend an action point (since spending it is a free action), but you cannot use the action, since you are still limited to using only one of your actions. You would gain any benefits of spending an action point (like from your paragon path).
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4 years ago ::
Oct 14, 2009 - 9:10AM
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Oct 12, 2009
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I agree that there is nothing stopping you from using an action point. As an action point is such a precious resourse, I would not stop it from granting the standard action.
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4 years ago ::
Oct 14, 2009 - 10:07AM
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I agree that there is nothing stopping you from using an action point. As an action point is such a precious resourse, I would not stop it from granting the standard action.
Ditto.
Daze limits you to an action and spending an AP gives you an extra action (P277 &
286). I see no conflict between them.
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4 years ago ::
Oct 14, 2009 - 10:16AM
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Jan 24, 2009
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I agree that there is nothing stopping you from using an action point. As an action point is such a precious resourse, I would not stop it from granting the standard action.
Ditto.
Daze limits you to an action and spending an AP gives you an extra action (P277 &
286). I see no conflict between them.
It gives you an extra action, yes. You start your turn with 3 actions, we will call them cards. You are allowed to play only 1 card on your turn, even though you have 3. Drawing another card does not mean you can play another card.
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4 years ago ::
Oct 14, 2009 - 10:23AM
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I agree that there is nothing stopping you from using an action point. As an action point is such a precious resourse, I would not stop it from granting the standard action.
Ditto.
Daze limits you to an action and spending an AP gives you an extra action (P277 &
286). I see no conflict between them.
It gives you an extra action, yes.
You start your turn with 3 actions, we will call them cards. You are allowed to play only 1 card on your turn, even though you have 3. Drawing another card does not mean you can play another card.
You can play as many cards as you have in your hand. When dazed, you only have one. When you spend your Action Point, you draw another card and can play it.
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4 years ago ::
Oct 14, 2009 - 10:23AM
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Jan 24, 2009
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You can play as many cards as you have in your hand. When dazed, you only have one. When you spend your Action Point, you draw another card and can play it.
No. You still have all 3 when dazed, you are just limited to one.
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