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4 years ago  ::  Oct 04, 2009 - 8:30AM #1
bs103
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Date Joined: Jun 25, 2007
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Please excuse if this has been asked, but I couldn't find in any searches.


I have an eladrin assaultmage about to hit paragon.  There are a few paths that seem enticing, but the  answer to this question could make up my mind.


I want to know if I hit someone with the ensorcelled mind power and also have them marked by the aegis of assault, would that monster attacking his ally trigger my aegis?


 


To clarify, this is the ideal turn:
Std action:  hit monster 1 with ensorcelled mind


Move: adjacent to monster 2


Minor: mark monster 1 (even though it CANNOT attack meSmile) who is now hopefully within reach of monster 2


During monsters' turn: monster 2 attacks me, causing charmed monster#1 to attack #2 and then triggering my aegis allowing me to teleport and attack monster 1.


 


Myself and at least one other member of my group seem to think this is allowable because the ensorcelled mind power says nothing about 'dominating' the target or any similar keyword.


I've also considered taking double aegis to also mark monster2 to ensure that he attacks meSmile.
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4 years ago  ::  Oct 06, 2009 - 11:00PM #2
Yarskath
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Date Joined: Nov 18, 2007
Posts: 130

Seems legal by RAW.


PHB 277 list the marked condition:


"MARKED
You take a –2 penalty to attack rolls for any attack that doesn’t target the creature that marked you."


This makes no mention of restricting who gets hit as long as the attack does not include the marker.  AA only requires that the marked creature actually hit to trigger the tele-attack.  And PHB 277 for dominated:


"DOMINATED
You’re dazed.
The dominating creature chooses your action. The only powers it can make you use are at-will powers."


This makes no mention of restricting who the creature can attack.  Just like you can choose to attack your fellow party members, monsters are free to attack their allies too.  It just doesn't mean it is the best strategy.


So I'd say go for it. It may feel chees-tastic on paper, but Ensorcelled Mind is an encounter power...so you can only pull it off once per encounter.  Plus the "until end of next turn" duration is a fairly narrow window, so the monsters would need to be in proper position the moment you hit em with this.  Besides, depending on turn order, an intelligent monster could easily just stay out of melee range of any of its allies that attak you until the effect wears off.
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