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4 years ago  ::  Sep 05, 2009 - 10:02PM #21
Herrozerro
Date Joined: Aug 13, 2007
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It might not have hit your idea of Scifi, but it was never going to it in the first place.  


In some ways ALOT of good Science Fiction wouldnt make your day.  Foundation by Isaac Asimov, Dune by Frank Herbert... and many more.  


Science Fiction is much more then Blasters and FTL.   Just as fantasy is more then LotR

Play whatever the **** you want.

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4 years ago  ::  Sep 06, 2009 - 12:15AM #22
Bedeverekm
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I've only actually seen a few episodes, but it looked very much like an outer space western to me.  Certainly influenced by the A Team, but the setting was largely unimportant.  It had that western feel to it.  Justice was rough and scarce from the few bits I'd seen, and sometimes the good guys need to do bad things to make things right. 
Also, the good guys were just a little bit not good, which is fairly true of any western hero.  Killing people on a regular basis was almost a prerequisite to have a western about you.  Unless your name was Kwai Chang Caine, of course.


Oh, and if people want to know how I got that single line break, since I've heard people complaining about the enforced paragraph breaks, then it was shift-enter. 

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4 years ago  ::  Sep 06, 2009 - 12:43AM #23
Kalnaur
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Sep 6, 2009 -- 12:15AM, Bedeverekm wrote:


I've only actually seen a few episodes, but it looked very much like an outer space western to me.  Certainly influenced by the A Team, but the setting was largely unimportant.  It had that western feel to it.  Justice was rough and scarce from the few bits I'd seen, and sometimes the good guys need to do bad things to make things right. 
Also, the good guys were just a little bit not good, which is fairly true of any western hero.  Killing people on a regular basis was almost a prerequisite to have a western about you.  Unless your name was Kwai Chang Caine, of course.


Oh, and if people want to know how I got that single line break, since I've heard people complaining about the enforced paragraph breaks, then it was shift-enter. 




It was in fact very Space Western.  And I love that show.
So I guess we outnumber Salla, currently.  Who needs an edition war when you can have a "Joss Whedon Fanboy/girl" war? Wink

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Feb 3, 2011 -- 6:30AM, Dane_McArdy wrote:

You have to do the work first, and show you can do the work, before someone is going to pay you for it.


Apr 26, 2011 -- 10:42AM, Timmeh wrote:

If you can't understand how someone yelling at another person would make them fight harder and longer, then you need to look at the forums a bit closer.

quote author=56832398 post=519321747]Considering DnD is a game wouldn't all styles be gamist?

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4 years ago  ::  Sep 06, 2009 - 7:12AM #24
Salla
Date Joined: Apr 3, 2003
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Sep 6, 2009 -- 12:43AM, Kalnaur wrote:


Sep 6, 2009 -- 12:15AM, Bedeverekm wrote:


I've only actually seen a few episodes, but it looked very much like an outer space western to me.  Certainly influenced by the A Team, but the setting was largely unimportant.  It had that western feel to it.  Justice was rough and scarce from the few bits I'd seen, and sometimes the good guys need to do bad things to make things right. 
Also, the good guys were just a little bit not good, which is fairly true of any western hero.  Killing people on a regular basis was almost a prerequisite to have a western about you.  Unless your name was Kwai Chang Caine, of course.


Oh, and if people want to know how I got that single line break, since I've heard people complaining about the enforced paragraph breaks, then it was shift-enter. 




It was in fact very Space Western.  And I love that show.
So I guess we outnumber Salla, currently.  Who needs an edition war when you can have a "Joss Whedon Fanboy/girl" war?



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4 years ago  ::  Sep 06, 2009 - 12:14PM #25
AttilatheNun
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What I don't understand is why it has to have all those things to be good.  Could Star Wars have been good if storm troopers had had normal firearms instead of blasters and there was no hyperspace? I don't see why not. 


Why does something have to have all the classic tropes to be good?  Can't someone try to do something a bit different? Last I checked, different is quite often a good thing.

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4 years ago  ::  Sep 06, 2009 - 2:55PM #26
Salla
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Sep 6, 2009 -- 12:14PM, AttilatheNun wrote:


What I don't understand is why it has to have all those things to be good.  Could Star Wars have been good if storm troopers had had normal firearms instead of blasters and there was no hyperspace? I don't see why not. 


Why does something have to have all the classic tropes to be good?  Can't someone try to do something a bit different? Last I checked, different is quite often a good thing.




It doesn't have to have all those things to be 'good'.  It has to have those things for me to like it.

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4 years ago  ::  Sep 06, 2009 - 3:13PM #27
Kalnaur
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Sep 6, 2009 -- 2:55PM, Salla wrote:


Sep 6, 2009 -- 12:14PM, AttilatheNun wrote:


What I don't understand is why it has to have all those things to be good.  Could Star Wars have been good if storm troopers had had normal firearms instead of blasters and there was no hyperspace? I don't see why not. 


Why does something have to have all the classic tropes to be good?  Can't someone try to do something a bit different? Last I checked, different is quite often a good thing.




It doesn't have to have all those things to be 'good'.  It has to have those things for me to like it.




Does this mean you dislike the "Alien" series of movies?

"I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody." --Bill Cosby (1937- )

Vanador: OK. You ripped a gateway to Hell, killed half the town, and raised the dead as feral zombies. We're going to kill you. But it can go two ways. We want you to run as fast as you possibly can toward the south of the town to draw the Zombies to you, and right before they catch you, I'll put an arrow through your head to end it instantly. If you don't agree to do this, we'll tie you this building and let the Zombies rip you apart slowly.
Dimitry: God I love being Neutral.
4th edition is dead, long live 4th edition.
Salla: opinionated, but commonly right.
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Feb 3, 2011 -- 6:30AM, Dane_McArdy wrote:

You have to do the work first, and show you can do the work, before someone is going to pay you for it.


Apr 26, 2011 -- 10:42AM, Timmeh wrote:

If you can't understand how someone yelling at another person would make them fight harder and longer, then you need to look at the forums a bit closer.

quote author=56832398 post=519321747]Considering DnD is a game wouldn't all styles be gamist?

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4 years ago  ::  Sep 06, 2009 - 3:15PM #28
Salla
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Sep 6, 2009 -- 3:13PM, Kalnaur wrote:


Sep 6, 2009 -- 2:55PM, Salla wrote:


Sep 6, 2009 -- 12:14PM, AttilatheNun wrote:


What I don't understand is why it has to have all those things to be good.  Could Star Wars have been good if storm troopers had had normal firearms instead of blasters and there was no hyperspace? I don't see why not. 


Why does something have to have all the classic tropes to be good?  Can't someone try to do something a bit different? Last I checked, different is quite often a good thing.




It doesn't have to have all those things to be 'good'.  It has to have those things for me to like it.




Does this mean you dislike the "Alien" series of movies?




Yes.  Despite the sci-fi trappings, they were horror movies, and I don't do horror movies.

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4 years ago  ::  Sep 06, 2009 - 3:21PM #29
Kalnaur
Date Joined: Oct 19, 2008
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Sep 6, 2009 -- 3:15PM, Salla wrote:


Sep 6, 2009 -- 3:13PM, Kalnaur wrote:


Sep 6, 2009 -- 2:55PM, Salla wrote:


Sep 6, 2009 -- 12:14PM, AttilatheNun wrote:


What I don't understand is why it has to have all those things to be good.  Could Star Wars have been good if storm troopers had had normal firearms instead of blasters and there was no hyperspace? I don't see why not. 


Why does something have to have all the classic tropes to be good?  Can't someone try to do something a bit different? Last I checked, different is quite often a good thing.




It doesn't have to have all those things to be 'good'.  It has to have those things for me to like it.




Does this mean you dislike the "Alien" series of movies?




Yes.  Despite the sci-fi trappings, they were horror movies, and I don't do horror movies.




Back to the Future?  Minority Report? Total Recall? E.T.? The Matrix? Terminator? The Fifth Element?


 


Edit: and so we don't completly derail this thread, I figure that the player's characters are not going to be going through from 1-30 levels for more than a year of in-game time.  I.E. I figure that the longest it would take for a PC (not some shmuck NPC) to reach 30th level will not exceed 12 months.  So I see no reason for aging penalties.

"I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody." --Bill Cosby (1937- )

Vanador: OK. You ripped a gateway to Hell, killed half the town, and raised the dead as feral zombies. We're going to kill you. But it can go two ways. We want you to run as fast as you possibly can toward the south of the town to draw the Zombies to you, and right before they catch you, I'll put an arrow through your head to end it instantly. If you don't agree to do this, we'll tie you this building and let the Zombies rip you apart slowly.
Dimitry: God I love being Neutral.
4th edition is dead, long live 4th edition.
Salla: opinionated, but commonly right.
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Feb 3, 2011 -- 6:30AM, Dane_McArdy wrote:

You have to do the work first, and show you can do the work, before someone is going to pay you for it.


Apr 26, 2011 -- 10:42AM, Timmeh wrote:

If you can't understand how someone yelling at another person would make them fight harder and longer, then you need to look at the forums a bit closer.

quote author=56832398 post=519321747]Considering DnD is a game wouldn't all styles be gamist?

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4 years ago  ::  Sep 06, 2009 - 3:23PM #30
Salla
Date Joined: Apr 3, 2003
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Sep 6, 2009 -- 3:21PM, Kalnaur wrote:


Sep 6, 2009 -- 3:15PM, Salla wrote:


Sep 6, 2009 -- 3:13PM, Kalnaur wrote:


Sep 6, 2009 -- 2:55PM, Salla wrote:


Sep 6, 2009 -- 12:14PM, AttilatheNun wrote:


What I don't understand is why it has to have all those things to be good.  Could Star Wars have been good if storm troopers had had normal firearms instead of blasters and there was no hyperspace? I don't see why not. 


Why does something have to have all the classic tropes to be good?  Can't someone try to do something a bit different? Last I checked, different is quite often a good thing.




It doesn't have to have all those things to be 'good'.  It has to have those things for me to like it.




Does this mean you dislike the "Alien" series of movies?




Yes.  Despite the sci-fi trappings, they were horror movies, and I don't do horror movies.




Back to the Future?  Minority Report? Total Recall? E.T.? The Matrix? Terminator? The Fifth Element?




Didn't see it, didn't see it, didn't see it, didn't like it, didn't see it, didn't see it, didn't see it.

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