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4 years ago ::
Aug 31, 2009 - 2:15AM
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www.mmorpg.com/blogs/staffblog/052009/45... I really can't understand, nor have heard a compelling argument, why role-playing must be covered in rules. I'm not interested in trading combat prowess for the ability to paint. I know this argument is as exciting as debating politics but he's taking a stab at D&D to turn would-be gamers off of it. Role-playing will never be complete with any system because too many possibilities exist. Nice try pal. If Boba Fett from the Star Wars cartoon special taught us anything, it's not to trust anyone who calls you "friend."
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4 years ago ::
Aug 31, 2009 - 2:54AM
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www.mmorpg.com/blogs/staffblog/052009/45...
I really can't understand, nor have heard a compelling argument, why role-playing must be covered in rules. I'm not interested in trading combat prowess for the ability to paint. I know this argument is as exciting as debating politics but he's taking a stab at D&D to turn would-be gamers off of it. Role-playing will never be complete with any system because too many possibilities exist. Nice try pal. If Boba Fett from the Star Wars cartoon special taught us anything, it's not to trust anyone who calls you "friend."
What I don't understand is, it's been over a year. People need to move the hell on and stop nerdraging.
If anything I say is wrong, clueless or spelt incorrectly, it is because, I am, in general, wrong, clueless and... Well, I'm usually spelt correctly.
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4 years ago ::
Aug 31, 2009 - 3:17AM
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So, it's a commercial for pathfinder?
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4 years ago ::
Aug 31, 2009 - 3:25AM
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What I don't understand is, it's been over a year. People need to move the hell on and stop nerdraging.
I fully agree that they should... but I know they won't. Stopping themselves from nerdraging would require a measure of intellect, self control, and a grasp of reality that many appear not to have. I can barely even stomach reading opinions like those shown in the linked blog... treating falcity as fact, ignoring all precedent and context, and straight up trash talking... and yet people say those two little words that some people only hear once and believe that indicates a majority: "I agree." I wish people would stop pretending that WoW somehow created party roles... party roles have existed ever since the first time that someone said "you know, it'd be better if we had one party member of each class (Fighter, Cleric, Thief, and Mage - not by those names specifically of course) so that the party can handle any challenge that the DM might decide to toss us." All WoW did was be popular - that doesn't make it original in any way. ...I also wish people could believe that their character can bake delicious cakes without their being numbers involved...
Careful, man. That much logic might be illegal on the internet. - Salla
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4 years ago ::
Aug 31, 2009 - 3:47AM
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am I reading the article right? It feels to me to basically be nothing more then a thinly veiled add for Pathfinder. The majority of the post if attacking their biggest competitor, and then it ends with an endorsement for said system.
Is it just me or is he claiming that there is not support in the system for your character to be a potter, or for him to know how to play the flute when there are in the rules under Backgrounds, which received a prototype version a couple months after release with the Scale of War background set.
It also seems to me that he is saying there is not system to cover say a dinner party hosted by the local baron, which would obviously be a skill challenge. Not certain that is what it is, just how it feels ot me. This is bad but I actually wish Wizards would have their lawyers check this and every other blog like it to see if there is enough stuff there that they are claiming as fact that either can not be verified or is verifiable false to justify a liable to try for a liable case, and eventually someone needs to get hit with such a lawsuit so that bloggers will realize they need to be able to back up what they say. But that is probably because I want to see certain things proved false in a court of law.
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4 years ago ::
Aug 31, 2009 - 11:38AM
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It also seems to me that he is saying there is not system to cover say a dinner party hosted by the local baron, which would obviously be a skill challenge.
Or it could compleatly all rp with no die rolling whatsoever.
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4 years ago ::
Aug 31, 2009 - 11:49AM
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4th killed RP because you can't say "i've got Profession (baker) 5 ranks" and now have to say "my character trained as a baker" it also killed your puppy because it doesn't have a chart for the purchase of animals. you can't have a puppy unless you're a beastmaster ranger. and your baby because it doesn't have an age chart. so babies don't exist.
3rd ed SRD, character sheets, errata & free modules4th ed test drive - modules, starter rules, premade characters and character builder & character sheet, errata Free maps and portraits, dice, printable graph paper, campaign managing website, image manipulation program + token maker & zone markers"All right, I've been thinking. When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back. GET MAD! I DON'T WANT YOUR **** LEMONS! WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO WITH THESE?! DEMAND TO SEE LIFE'S MANAGER! Make life RUE the day it thought it could give CAVE JOHNSON LEMONS! DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?! I'M THE MAN WHO'S GONNA BURN YOUR HOUSE DOWN! WITH THE LEMONS! I'm gonna get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that's gonna BURN YOUR HOUSE DOWN!" -Cave Johnson, Portal 2
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4 years ago ::
Aug 31, 2009 - 12:02PM
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it also killed your puppy because it doesn't have a chart for the purchase of animals
Actually, it does ... AV, p11.
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4 years ago ::
Aug 31, 2009 - 12:06PM
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well the PHB DMG & MM, i doubt this guy has bothered to do any research beyond it.
3rd ed SRD, character sheets, errata & free modules4th ed test drive - modules, starter rules, premade characters and character builder & character sheet, errata Free maps and portraits, dice, printable graph paper, campaign managing website, image manipulation program + token maker & zone markers"All right, I've been thinking. When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back. GET MAD! I DON'T WANT YOUR **** LEMONS! WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO WITH THESE?! DEMAND TO SEE LIFE'S MANAGER! Make life RUE the day it thought it could give CAVE JOHNSON LEMONS! DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?! I'M THE MAN WHO'S GONNA BURN YOUR HOUSE DOWN! WITH THE LEMONS! I'm gonna get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that's gonna BURN YOUR HOUSE DOWN!" -Cave Johnson, Portal 2
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4 years ago ::
Aug 31, 2009 - 12:06PM
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Personally I dislike 4.0. Version 3.5 was very fun! My friend's dad has a big shed with tons of old school D&D books, comics, NES games, an r2-d2 cooler, legos. it's awesome, anyway i'm rambling. we use it for RP and i don't think i would ever allow 4.0 in there. nope.
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