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4 years ago ::
Jun 22, 2009 - 6:22AM
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I think the discussion should continue in the other topic. After all, this topic is Fireclave's guide for creation of new races, not a "rate-my-new-class" topic. I think we should discuss specific race abilities and such here, but completed races should have their own topic. Otherwise this topic can become a real mess, IMO.
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4 years ago ::
Jun 22, 2009 - 11:15AM
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4 years ago ::
Jun 22, 2009 - 11:19AM
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Oh, btw, another general question. Would it be balanced to change the Elf's Group Awareness for a +1 to ranged attack rolls (+2 at level 11 and +3 at 21)?
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4 years ago ::
Jun 22, 2009 - 1:31PM
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Oh, btw, another general question. Would it be balanced to change the Elf's Group Awareness for a +1 to ranged attack rolls (+2 at level 11 and +3 at 21)?
Absolutely not. That's a ridiculously good racial feature, and even if giving a +1 to ranged attack rolls was appropriate, it should never scale, because a +1 bonus to hit is exactly as useful at 30th level as it is at 1st. Bonuses to hit never need to scale, only bonuses to damage do (exception is if your racial power has an attack roll).
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4 years ago ::
Jun 22, 2009 - 1:48PM
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Unless I'm missing something, the Elf's Group Awareness ability grants non-elf allies a bonus to Perception, not attack rolls 
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4 years ago ::
Jun 22, 2009 - 1:55PM
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Unless I'm missing something, the Elf's Group Awareness ability grants non-elf allies a bonus to Perception, not attack rolls
Yes, that was the question. What if hypothetically it were to be changed to a bonus to ranged attack rolls instead of a bonus to perception checks?
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4 years ago ::
Jun 22, 2009 - 4:37PM
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Yes, that was the question. What if hypothetically it were to be changed to a bonus to ranged attack rolls instead of a bonus to perception checks?
Okay, I see now. Then, yeah, what Crim said.
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4 years ago ::
Jun 22, 2009 - 5:25PM
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But wait, I'm not saying a bonus to ranged attacks to all party members, just for the player. And without scaling it, of course. Ranged basic attack rolls, maybe?
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4 years ago ::
Jun 22, 2009 - 5:29PM
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But wait, I'm not saying a bonus to ranged attacks to all party members, just for the player. And without scaling it, of course. Ranged basic attack rolls, maybe?
Still no. Then you've still got a racial feature that's only useful for a very limited number of classes. A features that's ridiculously good for some classes and completely useless for other classes is generally a terrible idea, and this is not one of the ridiculously few exceptions.
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4 years ago ::
Jun 22, 2009 - 5:54PM
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But isn't that the same as the Half-orc's swift charge racial feature? I mean, a wizard won't likely charge, isn't it?
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