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Nazralte wrote:

Honestly, I really dont understand why you two are arguing over that. I mean, the bard is so very loosly based on real life anyways. Minstrils and such were the lowest members of the court usually, and of course in D&D they are anything but. And of course lets not forget the magic and all the other crap that has nothing to do with real life.

So really, who cares? When it comes to Saric's bard, we only need to worry about how it compares to past D&D versions, and nothing else.

eh, to me, when you are re-imagining a class, you should look at the archetypes that inspired it. unfortunately i came across as thinking more about the historical truth than i really was, i was more concerned with the archetypes as such, the combination of truth and legend that makes up what people think of when they think BARD.

so far, the 4e Bard seems to be doing a decent job, although i hope they eventually have more weapon based powers than they currently do, but overall, good for a preview. Seems like they are low on skills too, but that may be a matter of me thinking back to 3.5, and forgetting how things work in 4e.