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4 years ago ::
Nov 24, 2008 - 8:34PM
#51
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I'm tossing around the idea of letting someone play a blind character in a campaign. I'm looking for pros and cons on the scenario. Obviously the character would have blindsight but I wonder how much range to allow for this. Any comments and concerns are welcome.
Their are exactly TWO ways to do blind characters.
Example 1, You do nothing. The character gets to say he's blind, and act normally. Blinding attacks still "blind" him, darkness blinds him as normal. If you need a reason why, just say it's because he "hears light" and no light = no seeing.
Example 2, you apply blindness to the character as per the PHB.
BLINDED
✦ You grant combat advantage.
✦ You can’t see any target (your targets have total
concealment).
✦ You take a –10 penalty to Perception checks.
✦ You can’t flank an enemy.
But, you ALLOW him to have "line of sight" anyway. That means the character must over come all those handicaps, and the fact all attacks are -5.
That's it, have fun. Pick your poison wisely.
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4 years ago ::
Dec 28, 2008 - 5:48PM
#52
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- Stampeding Hybrid
- Dragon Slayer
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If he's a Drow then you don't need any mechanics changes to be blind thanks to Darkvision.
um.... thats not true, darkvision is not blindsense, its just a supercharged version of low light vision, but it is still something that requires sight and a blinded creature or player with darkvision is still blinded, unable to see any more than a blinded creature with normal vision. I find a lot of issues like this, people assume things are simply equivelent to 3.x stuff they're used to when in fact they are totally different once you actually read the core books.
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4 years ago ::
Dec 28, 2008 - 6:54PM
#53
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um.... thats not true, darkvision is not blindsense, its just a supercharged version of low light vision, but it is still something that requires sight and a blinded creature or player with darkvision is still blinded, unable to see any more than a blinded creature with normal vision. I find a lot of issues like this, people assume things are simply equivelent to 3.x stuff they're used to when in fact they are totally different once you actually read the core books.
You don't need Blindsense to play a Blind character with 'super senses'. Darkvision works just fine, not being able to sense invisible creatures cloaked by magic isn't exactly unreasonable, but having light affect your special senses is somewhat nonsensical.
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4 years ago ::
Dec 28, 2008 - 7:03PM
#54
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- Stampeding Hybrid
- Dragon Slayer
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You don't need Blindsense to play a Blind character with 'super senses'. Darkvision works just fine, not being able to sense invisible creatures cloaked by magic isn't exactly unreasonable, but having light affect your special senses is somewhat nonsensical.
What??? The person I quoted said that a blind character with dark vision would function like they wern't blind at all (or well thats what they implied). I merely said that was wrong. Dark vision doesn't give you the ability to see anything unusual or exceptional it simply means you can see in the dark, it doesn't prevent blindness from effecting you or anything. A character with darkvision is effected by blindness normally just as a character with normal is all I am saying.
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4 years ago ::
Dec 28, 2008 - 7:35PM
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You don't need Blindsense to play a Blind character with 'super senses'. Darkvision works just fine, not being able to sense invisible creatures cloaked by magic isn't exactly unreasonable, but having light affect your special senses is somewhat nonsensical.
Looks like someone is under the effect of Chaotic Arguement.... Funny, I thought those spells were cast only in 'fighter sux' threads.
Your post is completly out of context with the rest of this thread.
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4 years ago ::
Dec 28, 2008 - 8:32PM
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Looks like someone is under the effect of Chaotic Arguement.... Funny, I thought those spells were cast only in 'fighter sux' threads.
Your post is completly out of context with the rest of this thread.
Really? How so?
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4 years ago ::
Dec 28, 2008 - 9:05PM
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Once my friend thought it would be a good idea to roll up a blind ranger. It didnt go to well, she made up for it by some how having no stat under 16, We still dont know how that happend, apparently it was fair rolls. Needless to say she doesnt play with us any more.
I would advice against it, but if they really want to let them be blind.
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4 years ago ::
Dec 28, 2008 - 9:06PM
#58
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You don't need Blindsense to play a Blind character with 'super senses'. Darkvision works just fine, not being able to sense invisible creatures cloaked by magic isn't exactly unreasonable, but having light affect your special senses is somewhat nonsensical.
We're talking about actual blindness here.... Not magical blindness. Not creatures using magic to make themselves invisible. Not being unable to see in the dark. Blindness, as in having no functional use of your eyes. Care to explain how having darkvision negates being blind? I'd love to hear the idea behind this...
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4 years ago ::
Dec 29, 2008 - 12:49AM
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We're talking about actual blindness here.... Not magical blindness. Not creatures using magic to make themselves invisible. Not being unable to see in the dark. Blindness, as in having no functional use of your eyes. Care to explain how having darkvision negates being blind? I'd love to hear the idea behind this...
Um, because we long since started offering potential possibilities to roleplay as a blind character while having no actual functional game changes.
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4 years ago ::
Dec 29, 2008 - 7:47AM
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- Stampeding Hybrid
- Dragon Slayer
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Um, because we long since started offering potential possibilities to roleplay as a blind character while having no actual functional game changes.
And how does having darkvision mean that there is no actual functional game change? Thats what we all don't understand. Darkvision is nothing more than having eyes that let you see in the dark, if your blind those eyes don't work and you can't see. Darkvision doesn't let you see invisible things, it doesn't let you see while blinded, it doesn't do much but let you avoid penalties for fighting in total darkness (when you aren't blind that is), thats all.
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