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Maxperson wrote:

And to their benifit. Or do you think the DMs are too stupid to realize that a rule that only applies to the players and not the DM will create ill feelings?

You really did seem to not understand this, and I didn't want it to be ignored.
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Think of it like this.

How many d20 rolls will a given PC make throughout their lifetime. Lets call it X. X is quite a big number.

How many d20 rolls will a given kobold mook make throughout its life in the frame that the PCs ever see it. 4? maybe 5 if its lucky?

That kobold rolls a 1 and cuts off its own head. Whatever, no one cares. It was going to die next round anyway, and if it lived the only difference in the end game of the PCs life is they are down minimal hp, that is probably resored after a short or exended rest. (very seveare crit failure rule I have personally seen happen to PCs and NPCs alike in one session before i left.)

If the average combat is 8ish rounds, that means the PCs will be fumbling twice every five combats. Provided the DM only says the first attack roll can crit fumble (totally adds to realism, i know, only that first bullet is lethal to you guys). This means that the PCs will be fumbling twice a day each on average.

PCs are fumbling twice a day each on average (at least). Given a 5 man party this means once a combat someone will do it. (and we all know friendly fire occurs in every fight IRL) (Also this is why we never employ squads of more than 20, or else statistically someone will shoot someone else every six seconds of every fight.)

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If something that happens that kills that kobold mook a little earlier than he probably would have died, really who cares. But if something happens that kills Thoradin the Dwarven paladin before his crusade against evil is over, well now darkness has descended over the land and whatnot. More importantly though, bill here now has to begin making a new character, and the battle just got that much harder for sue, jo, and sally, the other players.

Thomson wrote:

This makes close burst powers even more dangerous to use than they already are...

A wizard attacking four minions has an almost 19% chance of granting combat advantage doing this...

If I would do this, I would restrict it to the first attack roll for the power. And even then it may become annoying.

Again, if everybody in my group would want critical misses, I would still require an additional d20 roll with at least 5+ meaning nothing happens.

I havn't had a problem with it. Most of the time the wizard sticks to Cloud of Daggers. (you know, the new magic missile- Always does at least Wis mod damage, hit or miss)

Anubis_Reynard wrote:

I havn't had a problem with it. Most of the time the wizard sticks to Cloud of Daggers. (you know, the new magic missile- Always does at least Wis mod damage, hit or miss)

That's not really a valid arguement. Although you don't use them, many Wizard players do use AoE spells. What I would suggest is that only the first roll is eligable, that solves everything right up.