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5 years ago  ::  Jan 29, 2008 - 12:52AM #51
The_White_Sorcerer
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Valdrax wrote:

Interestingly, the new Astral Sea cosmology means that the "Demiplane of Dread" may be able to drop the "demi" and stand as an equal to any other Astral Domain.


Yeah. Try that in the Alignment Pizza.

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5 years ago  ::  Jan 29, 2008 - 1:36AM #52
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The White Sorcerer wrote:

Yeah. Try that in the Alignment Pizza.


They managed to do it with the Plane of Shadow.

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5 years ago  ::  Jan 29, 2008 - 7:54AM #53
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Sphere wrote:

They managed to do it with the Plane of Shadow.


By having it be the equivalent of the Astral and Ethereal -- a coterminous plane that echoed the Material. I don't think the Demiplane of Dread would quite work the same way (and didn't in 3e).

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5 years ago  ::  Jan 29, 2008 - 8:43AM #54
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The White Sorcerer wrote:

Yeah. Try that in the Alignment Pizza.


Mmm... Alignment Pizza.

I'll grab a slice of LE.

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5 years ago  ::  Jan 29, 2008 - 12:31PM #55
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Zynete wrote:

Mmm... Alignment Pizza.

I'll grab a slice of LE.


I'll take the deluxe (a little of everything), so something from the chaotic side for me

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5 years ago  ::  Jan 29, 2008 - 1:28PM #56
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it is good to see we are not losing the the best starting point of the planes.

99% of my planer games use Sigil as a home base and a jump point for going most places.

Sounds like with the way things work not too you can do a Sigil starting game even just having your players run around the city till they level to the point they are able to go into the wider worlds.
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5 years ago  ::  Jan 29, 2008 - 1:50PM #57
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Valdrax wrote:

By having it be the equivalent of the Astral and Ethereal -- a coterminous plane that echoed the Material. I don't think the Demiplane of Dread would quite work the same way (and didn't in 3e).


Considering how most things are supposed to get there via the mists, I think it would work rather well.

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5 years ago  ::  Jan 29, 2008 - 2:36PM #58
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Sphere wrote:

Considering how most things are supposed to get there via the mists, I think it would work rather well.


Hrm. An interesting point, but I always imagined the Demiplane of Dread as being much smaller than the real world. The idea of it paralleling the entire material plane is rather daunting -- especially the proposition that the whole thing is filled with Dark Lords instead of a select, few, small kingdoms.

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5 years ago  ::  Jan 29, 2008 - 3:49PM #59
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Valdrax wrote:

Hrm. An interesting point, but I always imagined the Demiplane of Dread as being much smaller than the real world. The idea of it paralleling the entire material plane is rather daunting -- especially the proposition that the whole thing is filled with Dark Lords instead of a select, few, small kingdoms.


That is the entire demiplane VS a full plane thing. However it could be similar to the deep Ethereal; mostly mists with a few domains here and there bordering a world, but with the domains not nearly as big as the worlds they are bordering.

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5 years ago  ::  Jan 29, 2008 - 9:59PM #60
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Valdrax wrote:

Interestingly, the new Astral Sea cosmology means that the "Demiplane of Dread" may be able to drop the "demi" and stand as an equal to any other Astral Domain.


All of them are now apparently finite however. There's no longer a difference between a plane, a deific domain, and a demiplane on any practical level or in terms of metaphysical definition.

The "Demiplane" of Dread, was a demiplane in terms of its position within and in relation to the deep ethereal. However its interior was, as far as anyone knows, potentially infinite (or finite yet unbound). The "demi" wasn't a true classification of size or importance, much as how a demilich wasn't a lesser sort of undead horror for its own little prefix.

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