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5 years ago  ::  May 01, 2008 - 1:27PM #1
Zinger2099
Date Joined: Jun 15, 2007
Posts: 2,742
I've been seeing references to the Primordial War being made a lot in the various columns and editorials on the D&D website and it got me thinking...

Other then 'extremely powerful beings who created the gods' I don't know a lot about them, so I dug around a little with not a whole lot of luck. From what I know (or think I know), the Primordials are extremely powerful beings that were around since before the creation of the D&D cosmonology. They created the gods, and the gods rebelled against their creators in a war that is now refered to as the Primordial War. This was long before the Material plane came about, and Elves and Dwarves and Humans didn't even exist.

My question to all of you is, what exactly were these Primordials and what took place during the Primordial War?

Most importantly: How viable would it be to try and run a campaign set in the midst of this time period, where the players actually took part in the Primordial War? Your thoughts?

Thanks for your responses.
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Apr 24, 2011 -- 9:31AM, shadowfyre77 wrote:

dude, zinger, you are awesome.

yeah.

Apr 13, 2011 -- 4:18PM, Tevish_Szat wrote:

Zinger . . . 10/90 - If he bussed his don as a scum rolename cop while faux dug his grave attacking the claimed cop d1... well, if he fooled us all to lylo he deserves to win.

Apr 15, 2011 -- 1:03PM, Ragnalesca wrote:

Zinger was the star of that game, don't you deny it

Jan 12, 2011 -- 2:35AM, fcjamison wrote:

Soon is a funny creature with a highly variable pupal state, after which it becomes the beautiful creature known as now. Sometimes this metamophosis takes as little as a day, and sometimes it takes several months. Occasionally, the creature enters hybernation after chrysalis begins, and it may be several seasons before the metamorphosis is complete. Occassionally, the creature dies while in the pupal state without warning, and waiting for now to emerge becomes a lesson in futility. This is also seen in the creature known as later, and waiting for both soon and later to become now can be a frustrating process.

Feb 2, 2011 -- 2:44AM, scylis wrote:

Knowing is Half the Battle.
The Other Half is VIOLENCE!

Imagine a lightsaber duel between Optimus Prime and Batman. You're welcome.

Jan 31, 2011 -- 9:13AM, Just_a_cleric wrote:

Will add that I think Zinger is just a new 'type' of mafia player that doesn't really play by our standards and therefor still leaning towards town for now based on the way he plays in other games and it's seemingly the same (and I can't really see him as scum in all of them).

Jan 28, 2011 -- 10:07PM, Zipperflesh wrote:

.45 magnum + bullet + computer screen = problem solved

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May 31, 2010 -- 11:58AM, ProphetKing wrote:



The sun rises – and then is blown away by the fierce wind.

All over the world, dark clouds cover the sky. The atmosphere is covered in a dark iron curtain of cumulus. Thunder pours from the sky as if it mere rain and it hails daggers onto the ground. The people hide in fear, of whatever ungodly evil has been summoned by some fool.

The Great Guardian of the Sky, RAYQUAZA, has been summoned.

And he has come for Silly Dragons!

(Right Click - > View)

RAYQUAZAAMEN.png

Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Silly lay dead, once known in life as James, Town Aligned.

Now that Silly is dead, there is a calm. Once again all is right with the Heavens above.

But on Earth violence remains. King of Dominaria weeps over the loss of the one of his heart. He decides to end it all. He grabs an Arbok and shoves it onto it his neck. “BITE ME – END ME!” The snake does as asked and fills KoD with an exotic, incurable venom. He collapses.

Enraged and vicious, the snake systematically begins killing KoD’s poke’mon. Gengar and Beedrill are brutally slaughtered in an attempt to fight back. Skitty wisely tries to run away, but is easily taken out after Ekans discovers an underground gopher hole to pop out of. With great wide unhinged jaws, the snake swallows Skitty whole.

In great sorrow after the death of his owner, Silly, Wailord begins to look for his own lover – Skitty. It is a little known fact but whales and cats actually can interbreed in the pokemon world. Here is a graphic image illustrating this relationship.

Spoiler: Show

Wailord_X_Skitty_by_YellerCrakka1.jpg


At noticing the scent of Skitty in the vicious Arbok, Wailord goes nuts. He begins flopping around on the land and foaming from the mouth. He turns into some kind of suicide berserker and just throws his body haphazardly into anything. Mountains are crushed, caves are demolished, the earth is sundered. And Arbok is turned into a purple fruit roll up.

Meanwhile, KoD is suddenly feeling better! “I must have a natural immunity to snake poison or something. Wow…that was certainly sad and all, but y’know, I don’t think I’ll kill my – OH MY GOD IT’S A GIANT STAMPEDING WHALE!”

It was like dropping the Moon onto an ant. KoD never stood a chance.

…wait, maybe he did! The blowhole! KoD managed to become a modern day Jonah and avoid certain dead by smashing. He begins to live inside the whale itself, starting a farming community on the great beasts tongue. Mostly living out of self grown mushrooms plucked from his own horribly unhygienic body and drinking whale saliva to survive, KoD is…well, still suicidal. But clinging onto life.

However, one day the great beast yawns. KoD tumbles back into the digestive system. His skin is flayed away by acid. Miraculously, he survives as some kind of horrible walking pile of muscles. Then…in the most horrible, disgusting way imaginable…he manages to escape from the whale using a secret exit.

Of course, the local insects also like what came out of the whale’s secret exit. They find KoD and decide he’d be much better with several stings and bites. KoD becomes violently ill from malaria and begins puking. Unfortunately he loses a lung in the process and has to be rushed to the hospital. There he is put into an iron lung and locked away by the hospital staff, who promptly forget to feed him. KoD starts starving to death inside an iron machine that is keeping him alive against his will. Crying every day, he wishes just to die.

Then, one day, a young boy from a local charity group brings KoD breakfast. There’s eggs, orange juice, coffee…and a bran muffin.

KoD eagerly eats the breakfast, having begun digesting his own stomach before being given the wonderful gift of food. He saves the muffin for last. He takes a big bite and begins choking. He passes out and dies from lack of oxygen.

However, the EMTs finally heard KoD’s cry! They bring in the jaws of life and a deliberator. AMAZINGLY, they actually bring KoD back from the dead! KoD managed to survive the terrible curse of the muffin! All is saved.

Unfortunately, whales are incredibly fond of muffins too. Wailord shows back up seeking the muffin and grinds everyone in the hospital to a fine paste. KoD is now a pancake and was, before being smashed into a breakfast food himself, Jessie, Town Aligned.

Eventually Silly’s Wailord killed itself after realizing its life as a reality TV star was meaningless. Silly’s other Poke’mon, Zapdos died of a heroin overdose.



Serena is drinking coffee peacefully. It is a luxury she will not have often.

Despite the caffeine, she drifts off into sleep.

She awakes to a beautiful woman.

Spoiler: Show
clearyjynx.png


The big, puffy pink lips…yes, Serena must give this woman a lovely kiss!

The making out is passionate and forceful. There is tongue on tongue action.

During this ungodly nightmare of mankind/poke'mon relations, a mysterious move is made. Jynx yawns incredibly loud - popping her cheekbones...which turn out to be whirling blades of death. Shocked Serena tries to escape, but Jynx bear hugs her into submission. In an instant the Jynx whirls Serena's tongue into a bloody pile of dust. Slowly, the electronic blades go deeper and deeper up Serena’s throat until finally reaching the brain. A few slices here and there…Serena has been given an involuntary lobotomy.

She stares into space aimlessly. She is of the living but her spirit is gone.

The odd Jynx continues its plan. It vomits out several eggs into the now living corpse of Serena, via oral entry. They hatch into little Jynx maggots and begin to feast on Serena’s non-vitals. Slowly, the maggots begin to mature while eating out the inside of the still breathing, lobotomized Serena. They keep her alive in order to sustain the body as a food source – ensuring to eat an unimportant muscle, a vestigial pancreas…she’ll stay fresh longer if her heart still beats…

It’s too horrible to watch anymore. All you need to know is that she was Lt. Surge, Town Aligned. Her remaining Poke’mon, Gengar and Mismagius died alone in the wilderness.

Television informs you Glare has the orb now. It then flips to some local news about a ship being fired upon. Bored, you watch aimlessly until you hear a gunshot.

A random Suicine had it's brains blown out. The exit wound is the size of your fist. You try to apply medicine but you realize duct tape can't fix the hypothalmus.

...

TL;DR:

* Silly Dragons died as James, Town Aligned. His poke'mon were Wailord and Zapdos. He was obliterated by Rayquaza.

321wailord.png145zapdos.png

* King of Dominaria died as Jessie, Town Aligned. His poke'mon were Skitty, Gengar and Beedrill. He was crushed by Wailord.

300skitty.png094gengar.png015beedrill.png

* Serena died as Lt. Surge, Town Aligned. Her Poke'mon were Gengar and Mismagius. She was given a Lovely Kiss.

094gengar.png429mismagius.png

* A Suicine died.

245suicune.png

* Glare has the Orb.


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5 years ago  ::  May 02, 2008 - 6:21AM #2
Mirtek
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I don't think the primoridals created the gods, they were just already there and ruling when the gods came into being and didn't want to share.

I think I read somewhere that the surving primordials retreated into the elemental chaos after it was formed and became the demonlords (so Orcus is primordial).

Since Orcus (and also Demogorgon) having been said to be weaker than the deities (Orcus lvl 33 solo instead of Moradin lvl 38 solo) I think we can conclude that the primordial weren't more powerfull than the deities but just more numerous.
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5 years ago  ::  May 02, 2008 - 10:15AM #3
Zinger2099
Date Joined: Jun 15, 2007
Posts: 2,742

Mirtek wrote:

I don't think the primoridals created the gods, they were just already there and ruling when the gods came into being and didn't want to share.

I think I read somewhere that the surving primordials retreated into the elemental chaos after it was formed and became the demonlords (so Orcus is primordial).

Since Orcus (and also Demogorgon) having been said to be weaker than the deities (Orcus lvl 33 solo instead of Moradin lvl 38 solo) I think we can conclude that the primordial weren't more powerfull than the deities but just more numerous.


Thanks for your response. I have seen little to no information on this, so most of it is wild speculation. In the game Exalted, which I have never played, the Primordials created the gods, which is were I got that info. Wether that ring true to D&D as well is total speculation.

Nobody seems to know that much about the Primordial war. I am hoping the Manual of the Planes due to release in December has more info on this.

In short, I am intrigued by what is contrived as the 'origins of the D&D universe' so to speak, in terms of cosmonology at least, and I would like to run a game set in this period. The lack of general info though is making it rather difficult.

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Apr 24, 2011 -- 9:31AM, shadowfyre77 wrote:

dude, zinger, you are awesome.

yeah.

Apr 13, 2011 -- 4:18PM, Tevish_Szat wrote:

Zinger . . . 10/90 - If he bussed his don as a scum rolename cop while faux dug his grave attacking the claimed cop d1... well, if he fooled us all to lylo he deserves to win.

Apr 15, 2011 -- 1:03PM, Ragnalesca wrote:

Zinger was the star of that game, don't you deny it

Jan 12, 2011 -- 2:35AM, fcjamison wrote:

Soon is a funny creature with a highly variable pupal state, after which it becomes the beautiful creature known as now. Sometimes this metamophosis takes as little as a day, and sometimes it takes several months. Occasionally, the creature enters hybernation after chrysalis begins, and it may be several seasons before the metamorphosis is complete. Occassionally, the creature dies while in the pupal state without warning, and waiting for now to emerge becomes a lesson in futility. This is also seen in the creature known as later, and waiting for both soon and later to become now can be a frustrating process.

Feb 2, 2011 -- 2:44AM, scylis wrote:

Knowing is Half the Battle.
The Other Half is VIOLENCE!

Imagine a lightsaber duel between Optimus Prime and Batman. You're welcome.

Jan 31, 2011 -- 9:13AM, Just_a_cleric wrote:

Will add that I think Zinger is just a new 'type' of mafia player that doesn't really play by our standards and therefor still leaning towards town for now based on the way he plays in other games and it's seemingly the same (and I can't really see him as scum in all of them).

Jan 28, 2011 -- 10:07PM, Zipperflesh wrote:

.45 magnum + bullet + computer screen = problem solved

Best Death-Post Ever by ProphetKing Show

May 31, 2010 -- 11:58AM, ProphetKing wrote:



The sun rises – and then is blown away by the fierce wind.

All over the world, dark clouds cover the sky. The atmosphere is covered in a dark iron curtain of cumulus. Thunder pours from the sky as if it mere rain and it hails daggers onto the ground. The people hide in fear, of whatever ungodly evil has been summoned by some fool.

The Great Guardian of the Sky, RAYQUAZA, has been summoned.

And he has come for Silly Dragons!

(Right Click - > View)

RAYQUAZAAMEN.png

Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Silly lay dead, once known in life as James, Town Aligned.

Now that Silly is dead, there is a calm. Once again all is right with the Heavens above.

But on Earth violence remains. King of Dominaria weeps over the loss of the one of his heart. He decides to end it all. He grabs an Arbok and shoves it onto it his neck. “BITE ME – END ME!” The snake does as asked and fills KoD with an exotic, incurable venom. He collapses.

Enraged and vicious, the snake systematically begins killing KoD’s poke’mon. Gengar and Beedrill are brutally slaughtered in an attempt to fight back. Skitty wisely tries to run away, but is easily taken out after Ekans discovers an underground gopher hole to pop out of. With great wide unhinged jaws, the snake swallows Skitty whole.

In great sorrow after the death of his owner, Silly, Wailord begins to look for his own lover – Skitty. It is a little known fact but whales and cats actually can interbreed in the pokemon world. Here is a graphic image illustrating this relationship.

Spoiler: Show

Wailord_X_Skitty_by_YellerCrakka1.jpg


At noticing the scent of Skitty in the vicious Arbok, Wailord goes nuts. He begins flopping around on the land and foaming from the mouth. He turns into some kind of suicide berserker and just throws his body haphazardly into anything. Mountains are crushed, caves are demolished, the earth is sundered. And Arbok is turned into a purple fruit roll up.

Meanwhile, KoD is suddenly feeling better! “I must have a natural immunity to snake poison or something. Wow…that was certainly sad and all, but y’know, I don’t think I’ll kill my – OH MY GOD IT’S A GIANT STAMPEDING WHALE!”

It was like dropping the Moon onto an ant. KoD never stood a chance.

…wait, maybe he did! The blowhole! KoD managed to become a modern day Jonah and avoid certain dead by smashing. He begins to live inside the whale itself, starting a farming community on the great beasts tongue. Mostly living out of self grown mushrooms plucked from his own horribly unhygienic body and drinking whale saliva to survive, KoD is…well, still suicidal. But clinging onto life.

However, one day the great beast yawns. KoD tumbles back into the digestive system. His skin is flayed away by acid. Miraculously, he survives as some kind of horrible walking pile of muscles. Then…in the most horrible, disgusting way imaginable…he manages to escape from the whale using a secret exit.

Of course, the local insects also like what came out of the whale’s secret exit. They find KoD and decide he’d be much better with several stings and bites. KoD becomes violently ill from malaria and begins puking. Unfortunately he loses a lung in the process and has to be rushed to the hospital. There he is put into an iron lung and locked away by the hospital staff, who promptly forget to feed him. KoD starts starving to death inside an iron machine that is keeping him alive against his will. Crying every day, he wishes just to die.

Then, one day, a young boy from a local charity group brings KoD breakfast. There’s eggs, orange juice, coffee…and a bran muffin.

KoD eagerly eats the breakfast, having begun digesting his own stomach before being given the wonderful gift of food. He saves the muffin for last. He takes a big bite and begins choking. He passes out and dies from lack of oxygen.

However, the EMTs finally heard KoD’s cry! They bring in the jaws of life and a deliberator. AMAZINGLY, they actually bring KoD back from the dead! KoD managed to survive the terrible curse of the muffin! All is saved.

Unfortunately, whales are incredibly fond of muffins too. Wailord shows back up seeking the muffin and grinds everyone in the hospital to a fine paste. KoD is now a pancake and was, before being smashed into a breakfast food himself, Jessie, Town Aligned.

Eventually Silly’s Wailord killed itself after realizing its life as a reality TV star was meaningless. Silly’s other Poke’mon, Zapdos died of a heroin overdose.



Serena is drinking coffee peacefully. It is a luxury she will not have often.

Despite the caffeine, she drifts off into sleep.

She awakes to a beautiful woman.

Spoiler: Show
clearyjynx.png


The big, puffy pink lips…yes, Serena must give this woman a lovely kiss!

The making out is passionate and forceful. There is tongue on tongue action.

During this ungodly nightmare of mankind/poke'mon relations, a mysterious move is made. Jynx yawns incredibly loud - popping her cheekbones...which turn out to be whirling blades of death. Shocked Serena tries to escape, but Jynx bear hugs her into submission. In an instant the Jynx whirls Serena's tongue into a bloody pile of dust. Slowly, the electronic blades go deeper and deeper up Serena’s throat until finally reaching the brain. A few slices here and there…Serena has been given an involuntary lobotomy.

She stares into space aimlessly. She is of the living but her spirit is gone.

The odd Jynx continues its plan. It vomits out several eggs into the now living corpse of Serena, via oral entry. They hatch into little Jynx maggots and begin to feast on Serena’s non-vitals. Slowly, the maggots begin to mature while eating out the inside of the still breathing, lobotomized Serena. They keep her alive in order to sustain the body as a food source – ensuring to eat an unimportant muscle, a vestigial pancreas…she’ll stay fresh longer if her heart still beats…

It’s too horrible to watch anymore. All you need to know is that she was Lt. Surge, Town Aligned. Her remaining Poke’mon, Gengar and Mismagius died alone in the wilderness.

Television informs you Glare has the orb now. It then flips to some local news about a ship being fired upon. Bored, you watch aimlessly until you hear a gunshot.

A random Suicine had it's brains blown out. The exit wound is the size of your fist. You try to apply medicine but you realize duct tape can't fix the hypothalmus.

...

TL;DR:

* Silly Dragons died as James, Town Aligned. His poke'mon were Wailord and Zapdos. He was obliterated by Rayquaza.

321wailord.png145zapdos.png

* King of Dominaria died as Jessie, Town Aligned. His poke'mon were Skitty, Gengar and Beedrill. He was crushed by Wailord.

300skitty.png094gengar.png015beedrill.png

* Serena died as Lt. Surge, Town Aligned. Her Poke'mon were Gengar and Mismagius. She was given a Lovely Kiss.

094gengar.png429mismagius.png

* A Suicine died.

245suicune.png

* Glare has the Orb.


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5 years ago  ::  May 03, 2008 - 8:19PM #4
JohnLynch
Date Joined: Mar 26, 2008
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Mirtek wrote:

Since Orcus (and also Demogorgon) having been said to be weaker than the deities (Orcus lvl 33 solo instead of Moradin lvl 38 solo) I think we can conclude that the primordial weren't more powerfull than the deities but just more numerous.


I don't think so. Io took on a primordial by himself and was cleaved in two. So a primordial (easily was my impression) killed a god. Now the two parts of Io did immediately form into gods, but they only managed to kill the primordial by working together.

So I'd say primordials were definitely comparable in power to the gods.

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5 years ago  ::  May 04, 2008 - 6:31AM #5
Taurren
Date Joined: Mar 8, 2003
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JohnLynch wrote:

So I'd say primordials were definitely comparable in power to the gods.


Agreed.

If I recall correctly, the gods came into existence in the Astral Sea, while the primordials (elemental titans?) arose from the Elemental Chaos. I don't believe the gods were created by the primordials in the standard POL setting. But hell, you can change that around with a snap of your fingers if you want.

The 2 groups warred upon each other for dominion over creation. Eventually the primordials were defeated by the gods and entombed in divine prisons, leaving creation in the hands of the gods.

As for your other question, having PC's opererating during the Primordial War may pose a few challenges. The power scale is very high, so unless these are high level characters ( 20+ ?) I see them more as pawns that are moved from 1 confrontation to another.

A different approach might be to consider the use of "flashbacks". Imagine for a moment that your current party are actually comprised of the re-incarnated spirits of a group of divine heroes from the Primordial War. As they explore the current world, they "re-live" (ie play out) the challenges of their ancient spirits. These flashbacks provide not just a glimpse of the war, but clues to their current goals and motivations.

I hope that helps.

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5 years ago  ::  May 04, 2008 - 10:52AM #6
Mirtek
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Date Joined: Aug 4, 2001
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JohnLynch wrote:

I don't think so. Io took on a primordial by himself and was cleaved in two. So a primordial (easily was my impression) killed a god. Now the two parts of Io did immediately form into gods, but they only managed to kill the primordial by working together.

So I'd say primordials were definitely comparable in power to the gods.


Don't forget that they're coming in different powerlevels. Moradin and Orcus are 38 and 33 respectively.

That doesn't rule out a lvl 36 primordial cleaving a lvl 31 deity into two. I just wanted to say that the primordial aren't as rule of thumb tougher than the deities

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5 years ago  ::  May 04, 2008 - 11:20PM #7
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in my campaign, both are of the same creation, just in different locations, ie the astral sea and the elemental chaos. each has a fragment of the initial universal creators's psyche within them, representing a sliver or aspect of the once overall entity, hense portfolios etc kind of fit.

mortals have a soul forged from the same stuff that gives the gods and primordials their power, the more mortals that worship you, the more their power lends to yours, making sense that different primordials and different gods have different power levels.

the fundemental difference is the plane in which they reside, as they are ideals and thoughts given form , the form is created from the planar essence, meaning primordials are more chaotic and volatile whereas gods can be somewhat cunning and calculating, this is no hard and fast rule, as a god may have recieved an aspect of destruction and chaos from the splintered creator entity.

so basically theyre the same thing from different viewpoints, all warring with each other to be the one with the biggest amount of followers to eventually usurp the others, because when a god or primordial is shattered and exstinguished, his essence is absorbed by the victor and the mortals worshiping him transfer their power also.

so its a big battle royale, but with lots of divine truces and alliances.
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5 years ago  ::  May 06, 2008 - 4:46AM #8
Zinger2099
Date Joined: Jun 15, 2007
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But what exactly is a primordial, in terms of the game that I could understand. Are we talking like, really high level elementals here? Or are they, as one poster sugested, the demonlords (ala Orcus)? Or are they some other creature altogether.

And if I wanted to run a campaign set in this era it would obviously be an epic campaign, of that there is no doubt. But does anyone have any suggestions of how to pull this off? Do the PCs play the Gods? The Primordials? Or their pawns/followers?

I like to think that the gods as we know them today are not the same as they once were (if they are even the same at all), so that would involve some creative changes on my part to account for that period. What else?
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Apr 24, 2011 -- 9:31AM, shadowfyre77 wrote:

dude, zinger, you are awesome.

yeah.

Apr 13, 2011 -- 4:18PM, Tevish_Szat wrote:

Zinger . . . 10/90 - If he bussed his don as a scum rolename cop while faux dug his grave attacking the claimed cop d1... well, if he fooled us all to lylo he deserves to win.

Apr 15, 2011 -- 1:03PM, Ragnalesca wrote:

Zinger was the star of that game, don't you deny it

Jan 12, 2011 -- 2:35AM, fcjamison wrote:

Soon is a funny creature with a highly variable pupal state, after which it becomes the beautiful creature known as now. Sometimes this metamophosis takes as little as a day, and sometimes it takes several months. Occasionally, the creature enters hybernation after chrysalis begins, and it may be several seasons before the metamorphosis is complete. Occassionally, the creature dies while in the pupal state without warning, and waiting for now to emerge becomes a lesson in futility. This is also seen in the creature known as later, and waiting for both soon and later to become now can be a frustrating process.

Feb 2, 2011 -- 2:44AM, scylis wrote:

Knowing is Half the Battle.
The Other Half is VIOLENCE!

Imagine a lightsaber duel between Optimus Prime and Batman. You're welcome.

Jan 31, 2011 -- 9:13AM, Just_a_cleric wrote:

Will add that I think Zinger is just a new 'type' of mafia player that doesn't really play by our standards and therefor still leaning towards town for now based on the way he plays in other games and it's seemingly the same (and I can't really see him as scum in all of them).

Jan 28, 2011 -- 10:07PM, Zipperflesh wrote:

.45 magnum + bullet + computer screen = problem solved

Best Death-Post Ever by ProphetKing Show

May 31, 2010 -- 11:58AM, ProphetKing wrote:



The sun rises – and then is blown away by the fierce wind.

All over the world, dark clouds cover the sky. The atmosphere is covered in a dark iron curtain of cumulus. Thunder pours from the sky as if it mere rain and it hails daggers onto the ground. The people hide in fear, of whatever ungodly evil has been summoned by some fool.

The Great Guardian of the Sky, RAYQUAZA, has been summoned.

And he has come for Silly Dragons!

(Right Click - > View)

RAYQUAZAAMEN.png

Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Silly lay dead, once known in life as James, Town Aligned.

Now that Silly is dead, there is a calm. Once again all is right with the Heavens above.

But on Earth violence remains. King of Dominaria weeps over the loss of the one of his heart. He decides to end it all. He grabs an Arbok and shoves it onto it his neck. “BITE ME – END ME!” The snake does as asked and fills KoD with an exotic, incurable venom. He collapses.

Enraged and vicious, the snake systematically begins killing KoD’s poke’mon. Gengar and Beedrill are brutally slaughtered in an attempt to fight back. Skitty wisely tries to run away, but is easily taken out after Ekans discovers an underground gopher hole to pop out of. With great wide unhinged jaws, the snake swallows Skitty whole.

In great sorrow after the death of his owner, Silly, Wailord begins to look for his own lover – Skitty. It is a little known fact but whales and cats actually can interbreed in the pokemon world. Here is a graphic image illustrating this relationship.

Spoiler: Show

Wailord_X_Skitty_by_YellerCrakka1.jpg


At noticing the scent of Skitty in the vicious Arbok, Wailord goes nuts. He begins flopping around on the land and foaming from the mouth. He turns into some kind of suicide berserker and just throws his body haphazardly into anything. Mountains are crushed, caves are demolished, the earth is sundered. And Arbok is turned into a purple fruit roll up.

Meanwhile, KoD is suddenly feeling better! “I must have a natural immunity to snake poison or something. Wow…that was certainly sad and all, but y’know, I don’t think I’ll kill my – OH MY GOD IT’S A GIANT STAMPEDING WHALE!”

It was like dropping the Moon onto an ant. KoD never stood a chance.

…wait, maybe he did! The blowhole! KoD managed to become a modern day Jonah and avoid certain dead by smashing. He begins to live inside the whale itself, starting a farming community on the great beasts tongue. Mostly living out of self grown mushrooms plucked from his own horribly unhygienic body and drinking whale saliva to survive, KoD is…well, still suicidal. But clinging onto life.

However, one day the great beast yawns. KoD tumbles back into the digestive system. His skin is flayed away by acid. Miraculously, he survives as some kind of horrible walking pile of muscles. Then…in the most horrible, disgusting way imaginable…he manages to escape from the whale using a secret exit.

Of course, the local insects also like what came out of the whale’s secret exit. They find KoD and decide he’d be much better with several stings and bites. KoD becomes violently ill from malaria and begins puking. Unfortunately he loses a lung in the process and has to be rushed to the hospital. There he is put into an iron lung and locked away by the hospital staff, who promptly forget to feed him. KoD starts starving to death inside an iron machine that is keeping him alive against his will. Crying every day, he wishes just to die.

Then, one day, a young boy from a local charity group brings KoD breakfast. There’s eggs, orange juice, coffee…and a bran muffin.

KoD eagerly eats the breakfast, having begun digesting his own stomach before being given the wonderful gift of food. He saves the muffin for last. He takes a big bite and begins choking. He passes out and dies from lack of oxygen.

However, the EMTs finally heard KoD’s cry! They bring in the jaws of life and a deliberator. AMAZINGLY, they actually bring KoD back from the dead! KoD managed to survive the terrible curse of the muffin! All is saved.

Unfortunately, whales are incredibly fond of muffins too. Wailord shows back up seeking the muffin and grinds everyone in the hospital to a fine paste. KoD is now a pancake and was, before being smashed into a breakfast food himself, Jessie, Town Aligned.

Eventually Silly’s Wailord killed itself after realizing its life as a reality TV star was meaningless. Silly’s other Poke’mon, Zapdos died of a heroin overdose.



Serena is drinking coffee peacefully. It is a luxury she will not have often.

Despite the caffeine, she drifts off into sleep.

She awakes to a beautiful woman.

Spoiler: Show
clearyjynx.png


The big, puffy pink lips…yes, Serena must give this woman a lovely kiss!

The making out is passionate and forceful. There is tongue on tongue action.

During this ungodly nightmare of mankind/poke'mon relations, a mysterious move is made. Jynx yawns incredibly loud - popping her cheekbones...which turn out to be whirling blades of death. Shocked Serena tries to escape, but Jynx bear hugs her into submission. In an instant the Jynx whirls Serena's tongue into a bloody pile of dust. Slowly, the electronic blades go deeper and deeper up Serena’s throat until finally reaching the brain. A few slices here and there…Serena has been given an involuntary lobotomy.

She stares into space aimlessly. She is of the living but her spirit is gone.

The odd Jynx continues its plan. It vomits out several eggs into the now living corpse of Serena, via oral entry. They hatch into little Jynx maggots and begin to feast on Serena’s non-vitals. Slowly, the maggots begin to mature while eating out the inside of the still breathing, lobotomized Serena. They keep her alive in order to sustain the body as a food source – ensuring to eat an unimportant muscle, a vestigial pancreas…she’ll stay fresh longer if her heart still beats…

It’s too horrible to watch anymore. All you need to know is that she was Lt. Surge, Town Aligned. Her remaining Poke’mon, Gengar and Mismagius died alone in the wilderness.

Television informs you Glare has the orb now. It then flips to some local news about a ship being fired upon. Bored, you watch aimlessly until you hear a gunshot.

A random Suicine had it's brains blown out. The exit wound is the size of your fist. You try to apply medicine but you realize duct tape can't fix the hypothalmus.

...

TL;DR:

* Silly Dragons died as James, Town Aligned. His poke'mon were Wailord and Zapdos. He was obliterated by Rayquaza.

321wailord.png145zapdos.png

* King of Dominaria died as Jessie, Town Aligned. His poke'mon were Skitty, Gengar and Beedrill. He was crushed by Wailord.

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* Serena died as Lt. Surge, Town Aligned. Her Poke'mon were Gengar and Mismagius. She was given a Lovely Kiss.

094gengar.png429mismagius.png

* A Suicine died.

245suicune.png

* Glare has the Orb.


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5 years ago  ::  May 06, 2008 - 4:06PM #9
Zebastian
Date Joined: Jan 31, 2008
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Primordials would have power levels in the same range of the Gods. Some may only be Exarch level. Others, the ones that were imprisoned because they couldn't be destroyed, could be equal to any of the highest level Deities. Unlike Gods, which seem to need souls and devotion (essentially beings of Order), Primordials are more the stuff of Chaos & raw energies.
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5 years ago  ::  May 06, 2008 - 4:35PM #10
Zinger2099
Date Joined: Jun 15, 2007
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Zebastian wrote:

Primordials would have power levels in the same range of the Gods. Some may only be Exarch level. Others, the ones that were imprisoned because they couldn't be destroyed, could be equal to any of the highest level Deities. Unlike Gods, which seem to need souls and devotion (essentially beings of Order), Primordials are more the stuff of Chaos & raw energies.


Sounds good. Has there ever been printed information about the Primordials in a 3.5 (or older) Rulebook? What do they look like? Does anyone know?

And what of that one posters claim that the Primordials are Demon lords? Is that just nonsense?

My Mafia No Lie Policy.
Talking about the Tomb of Horrors.
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Apr 24, 2011 -- 9:31AM, shadowfyre77 wrote:

dude, zinger, you are awesome.

yeah.

Apr 13, 2011 -- 4:18PM, Tevish_Szat wrote:

Zinger . . . 10/90 - If he bussed his don as a scum rolename cop while faux dug his grave attacking the claimed cop d1... well, if he fooled us all to lylo he deserves to win.

Apr 15, 2011 -- 1:03PM, Ragnalesca wrote:

Zinger was the star of that game, don't you deny it

Jan 12, 2011 -- 2:35AM, fcjamison wrote:

Soon is a funny creature with a highly variable pupal state, after which it becomes the beautiful creature known as now. Sometimes this metamophosis takes as little as a day, and sometimes it takes several months. Occasionally, the creature enters hybernation after chrysalis begins, and it may be several seasons before the metamorphosis is complete. Occassionally, the creature dies while in the pupal state without warning, and waiting for now to emerge becomes a lesson in futility. This is also seen in the creature known as later, and waiting for both soon and later to become now can be a frustrating process.

Feb 2, 2011 -- 2:44AM, scylis wrote:

Knowing is Half the Battle.
The Other Half is VIOLENCE!

Imagine a lightsaber duel between Optimus Prime and Batman. You're welcome.

Jan 31, 2011 -- 9:13AM, Just_a_cleric wrote:

Will add that I think Zinger is just a new 'type' of mafia player that doesn't really play by our standards and therefor still leaning towards town for now based on the way he plays in other games and it's seemingly the same (and I can't really see him as scum in all of them).

Jan 28, 2011 -- 10:07PM, Zipperflesh wrote:

.45 magnum + bullet + computer screen = problem solved

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May 31, 2010 -- 11:58AM, ProphetKing wrote:



The sun rises – and then is blown away by the fierce wind.

All over the world, dark clouds cover the sky. The atmosphere is covered in a dark iron curtain of cumulus. Thunder pours from the sky as if it mere rain and it hails daggers onto the ground. The people hide in fear, of whatever ungodly evil has been summoned by some fool.

The Great Guardian of the Sky, RAYQUAZA, has been summoned.

And he has come for Silly Dragons!

(Right Click - > View)

RAYQUAZAAMEN.png

Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Silly lay dead, once known in life as James, Town Aligned.

Now that Silly is dead, there is a calm. Once again all is right with the Heavens above.

But on Earth violence remains. King of Dominaria weeps over the loss of the one of his heart. He decides to end it all. He grabs an Arbok and shoves it onto it his neck. “BITE ME – END ME!” The snake does as asked and fills KoD with an exotic, incurable venom. He collapses.

Enraged and vicious, the snake systematically begins killing KoD’s poke’mon. Gengar and Beedrill are brutally slaughtered in an attempt to fight back. Skitty wisely tries to run away, but is easily taken out after Ekans discovers an underground gopher hole to pop out of. With great wide unhinged jaws, the snake swallows Skitty whole.

In great sorrow after the death of his owner, Silly, Wailord begins to look for his own lover – Skitty. It is a little known fact but whales and cats actually can interbreed in the pokemon world. Here is a graphic image illustrating this relationship.

Spoiler: Show

Wailord_X_Skitty_by_YellerCrakka1.jpg


At noticing the scent of Skitty in the vicious Arbok, Wailord goes nuts. He begins flopping around on the land and foaming from the mouth. He turns into some kind of suicide berserker and just throws his body haphazardly into anything. Mountains are crushed, caves are demolished, the earth is sundered. And Arbok is turned into a purple fruit roll up.

Meanwhile, KoD is suddenly feeling better! “I must have a natural immunity to snake poison or something. Wow…that was certainly sad and all, but y’know, I don’t think I’ll kill my – OH MY GOD IT’S A GIANT STAMPEDING WHALE!”

It was like dropping the Moon onto an ant. KoD never stood a chance.

…wait, maybe he did! The blowhole! KoD managed to become a modern day Jonah and avoid certain dead by smashing. He begins to live inside the whale itself, starting a farming community on the great beasts tongue. Mostly living out of self grown mushrooms plucked from his own horribly unhygienic body and drinking whale saliva to survive, KoD is…well, still suicidal. But clinging onto life.

However, one day the great beast yawns. KoD tumbles back into the digestive system. His skin is flayed away by acid. Miraculously, he survives as some kind of horrible walking pile of muscles. Then…in the most horrible, disgusting way imaginable…he manages to escape from the whale using a secret exit.

Of course, the local insects also like what came out of the whale’s secret exit. They find KoD and decide he’d be much better with several stings and bites. KoD becomes violently ill from malaria and begins puking. Unfortunately he loses a lung in the process and has to be rushed to the hospital. There he is put into an iron lung and locked away by the hospital staff, who promptly forget to feed him. KoD starts starving to death inside an iron machine that is keeping him alive against his will. Crying every day, he wishes just to die.

Then, one day, a young boy from a local charity group brings KoD breakfast. There’s eggs, orange juice, coffee…and a bran muffin.

KoD eagerly eats the breakfast, having begun digesting his own stomach before being given the wonderful gift of food. He saves the muffin for last. He takes a big bite and begins choking. He passes out and dies from lack of oxygen.

However, the EMTs finally heard KoD’s cry! They bring in the jaws of life and a deliberator. AMAZINGLY, they actually bring KoD back from the dead! KoD managed to survive the terrible curse of the muffin! All is saved.

Unfortunately, whales are incredibly fond of muffins too. Wailord shows back up seeking the muffin and grinds everyone in the hospital to a fine paste. KoD is now a pancake and was, before being smashed into a breakfast food himself, Jessie, Town Aligned.

Eventually Silly’s Wailord killed itself after realizing its life as a reality TV star was meaningless. Silly’s other Poke’mon, Zapdos died of a heroin overdose.



Serena is drinking coffee peacefully. It is a luxury she will not have often.

Despite the caffeine, she drifts off into sleep.

She awakes to a beautiful woman.

Spoiler: Show
clearyjynx.png


The big, puffy pink lips…yes, Serena must give this woman a lovely kiss!

The making out is passionate and forceful. There is tongue on tongue action.

During this ungodly nightmare of mankind/poke'mon relations, a mysterious move is made. Jynx yawns incredibly loud - popping her cheekbones...which turn out to be whirling blades of death. Shocked Serena tries to escape, but Jynx bear hugs her into submission. In an instant the Jynx whirls Serena's tongue into a bloody pile of dust. Slowly, the electronic blades go deeper and deeper up Serena’s throat until finally reaching the brain. A few slices here and there…Serena has been given an involuntary lobotomy.

She stares into space aimlessly. She is of the living but her spirit is gone.

The odd Jynx continues its plan. It vomits out several eggs into the now living corpse of Serena, via oral entry. They hatch into little Jynx maggots and begin to feast on Serena’s non-vitals. Slowly, the maggots begin to mature while eating out the inside of the still breathing, lobotomized Serena. They keep her alive in order to sustain the body as a food source – ensuring to eat an unimportant muscle, a vestigial pancreas…she’ll stay fresh longer if her heart still beats…

It’s too horrible to watch anymore. All you need to know is that she was Lt. Surge, Town Aligned. Her remaining Poke’mon, Gengar and Mismagius died alone in the wilderness.

Television informs you Glare has the orb now. It then flips to some local news about a ship being fired upon. Bored, you watch aimlessly until you hear a gunshot.

A random Suicine had it's brains blown out. The exit wound is the size of your fist. You try to apply medicine but you realize duct tape can't fix the hypothalmus.

...

TL;DR:

* Silly Dragons died as James, Town Aligned. His poke'mon were Wailord and Zapdos. He was obliterated by Rayquaza.

321wailord.png145zapdos.png

* King of Dominaria died as Jessie, Town Aligned. His poke'mon were Skitty, Gengar and Beedrill. He was crushed by Wailord.

300skitty.png094gengar.png015beedrill.png

* Serena died as Lt. Surge, Town Aligned. Her Poke'mon were Gengar and Mismagius. She was given a Lovely Kiss.

094gengar.png429mismagius.png

* A Suicine died.

245suicune.png

* Glare has the Orb.


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