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5 years ago ::
Nov 23, 2007 - 9:39AM
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Nov 21, 2006
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Well, at level 1 (not so much past that), you have so very few spells per day that scrolls are gunna be pretty mandatory to keep from resorting to the longsword. Good for dungeon crawls where you want to prepare sleep, but know you'll need identify later.
How many sessions are you level 1? Maybe 2.
The first session you don't have any scrolls you've scribed - since you don't have that steep 1xp cost necessary.
The second session you could have a couple as long as you've made some money in the first session. Of course - once again you may have just been able to buy some at that point.
However - I agree that first level is tough.
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5 years ago ::
Nov 23, 2007 - 9:54AM
#32
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How many sessions are you level 1? Maybe 2.
The first session you don't have any scrolls you've scribed - since you don't have that steep 1xp cost necessary.
The second session you could have a couple as long as you've made some money in the first session. Of course - once again you may have just been able to buy some at that point.
However - I agree that first level is tough.
3 typically. My DM favors long dungeon crawls.
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5 years ago ::
Nov 23, 2007 - 10:52AM
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Before you get Teleport, you can't always get the scrolls you want when you need them... Even with Teleport, you need to not be too far from civilization.
One of my current wizards - level 10 - has a Quill of Scribing (CM) to scribe for him during the night. Since the group is in the wilderness, I think it's going to be useful.
That said, it took me a long time to get to like Scribe Scroll.
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5 years ago ::
Nov 23, 2007 - 11:21AM
#34
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Date Joined:
Aug 16, 2006
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Hey Ed!
Where do I find that ring?
Not sure of that, but continuous Mage hand can be acquired from an item called Hand of the Mage. 900gp, straigth out of DMG.
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5 years ago ::
Nov 23, 2007 - 1:10PM
#35
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Date Joined:
Nov 21, 2006
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Before you get Teleport, you can't always get the scrolls you want when you need them... Even with Teleport, you need to not be too far from civilization.
One of my current wizards - level 10 - has a Quill of Scribing (CM) to scribe for him during the night. Since the group is in the wilderness, I think it's going to be useful.
That said, it took me a long time to get to like Scribe Scroll.
That's not really "get the scrolls you want when you need them"
If you are scribing a scroll - that means the spell is in your spellbook - and if you are going to wait anyways - you could have just memorized the spell.
Still not convinced - sorry.
Not saying scribe scroll is useless - but I think it's a long way from being good - and nowhere near being great.
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5 years ago ::
Nov 23, 2007 - 1:13PM
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Date Joined:
Nov 21, 2006
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Not sure of that, but continuous Mage hand can be acquired from an item called Hand of the Mage. 900gp, straigth out of DMG.
It's a cheap item - which is good.
It replicates a 0 level spell you probably have memorized anyways - which isn't very good.
You lose a necklace slot to gain a ring slot - which is Tomayto-tomahto
Nothing that it does makes me all that excited.
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5 years ago ::
Nov 23, 2007 - 1:24PM
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Just wondering why force cage isn't one of the evocation spells worth memorizing?
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5 years ago ::
Nov 23, 2007 - 2:16PM
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Date Joined:
Nov 21, 2006
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Just wondering why force cage isn't one of the evocation spells worth memorizing?
Sure. Forcecage is a decent spell (which you would expect from a 7th level spell) - but it is far from my favorite:
- 1,500 gp for every casting - did I mention I'm cheap?
- Size - Forcecage will have limited use against Big Nasty Critters because of them being big.
- Escapability - forcecage won't hold casters who can teleport.
Heck - a 1st level conjurer with Abrubt Jaunt can *yawn* escape a forcecage as an immediate action.
Finally - spells that trap foes are good - but there are lots of them - and most of them do not cost GP.
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5 years ago ::
Nov 23, 2007 - 2:21PM
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Date Joined:
May 13, 2005
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I see missing from this:
Pyrotechnics: hey guys, who wants Stinking Cloud or mass Blindness at level 3?
Sleet Storm: Darkness + Grease
Spell Turning: To mock other gods
The full range of shadow spells from Shadow Conjuration to Shades: Come now, let people know how vast the ownage is.
Defenestrating Sphere: This is arguably the best evocation in CA!
A nice list of spells that I didn't know about. Thanks.
Also, treantmonk - nice guide. Some prestige classes worth including (or linking to):
Shadowcraft Mage
Hathran
Incantatrix
War Weaver
Anima Mage
I think Ultimate Magus is a bit better than you rated it if you have the right build.
Best,
David
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5 years ago ::
Nov 23, 2007 - 2:28PM
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Nov 21, 2006
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A nice list of spells that I didn't know about. Thanks.
Also, treantmonk - nice guide. Some prestige classes worth including (or linking to):
Shadowcraft Mage
Hathran
Incantatrix
War Weaver
Anima Mage
I think Ultimate Magus is a bit better than you rated it if you have the right build.
Best,
David
Ultimate Magus is a hybrid that made my list - that counts for quite a bit actually since I tend to hate hybrids.
The other PrC's I do not know well enough to comment - and I do not own the books they are in.
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