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5 years ago ::
Dec 18, 2007 - 4:42PM
#11
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Good stuff.
great job, tagged 
Excellent resource, thanks
Not my work, just trying to keep it up-to-date and error-free.
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5 years ago ::
Dec 18, 2007 - 5:12PM
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Dwarf, Sorcerer substitution levels. Minor mistake - it gives you Con to bonus spells AS WELL as Charisma. It is basically the only reason I've ever heard of someone ever taking sorcerer past 5-7 for Prestige Class qualification.
I don't think that's quite right either-- from the way I'm reading it, you add your Con bonus to your Charisma score in order to determine your bonus spells. So in other words, if you had a 22 Con and a 24 Charisma, you would determine your bonus spells as if you had a 30 Charisma.
Assuming an 18 Charisma and a 16 Con with typical boosts, that puts you at almost exactly one extra spell of each level-- for a 4th level spell. (And, of course, 4 extra levels of sorcerer. )
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5 years ago ::
Dec 18, 2007 - 6:22PM
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Date Joined:
Apr 19, 2006
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I don't see whirling frenzy for the barbarian.
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5 years ago ::
Dec 19, 2007 - 12:31AM
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I don't think that's quite right either-- from the way I'm reading it, you add your Con bonus to your Charisma score in order to determine your bonus spells. So in other words, if you had a 22 Con and a 24 Charisma, you would determine your bonus spells as if you had a 30 Charisma.
Assuming an 18 Charisma and a 16 Con with typical boosts, that puts you at almost exactly one extra spell of each level-- for a 4th level spell. (And, of course, 4 extra levels of sorcerer. )
That's the way I understood it, too.
While 4 extra levels of Sorcerer isn't that tempting, this becomes much better if you're going with the Battle Sorcerer variant. A Dream dwarf Stalwart Battle Sorcerer 15/Abjurant champion 5 wouldn't be that bad for those who just want a simple gish build without all the dipping. Lots of hit points, lots of spell slots for Arcane strike, though only a handful of spells known.
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5 years ago ::
Dec 19, 2007 - 11:55AM
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I don't think that's quite right either
That's the way I understood it, too.
Having read the ability for myself now (would have been a good idea earlier, huh? :embarrass) I agree.
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5 years ago ::
Dec 19, 2007 - 12:44PM
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Date Joined:
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You have the Changeling Rogue sub levels under Rogue, but not under Changeling.
Good job by the way, very well organized.
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5 years ago ::
Jan 06, 2008 - 11:47PM
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I noticed that you haven't included the 24 or so substitution levels in Champions of Valor, although I understand that you might be busy compiling them as I type this. For reference: Spoiler:
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Bbn: Fangshields Barbarian
Cleric: Purple Staff
Druid: Fangshields Druid
Fighter: Darksong Knight
Monk: Broken One, Phoenix Disciple
Paladin: Berronar Valkyrie, Claw of the Sun and the Ankh, Crescent Moon Knight, Eternal Order, Golden Cup, Golden Lion, Holy Judge, Lion Legionnaire, Mystic Fire Knight, Noble Heart, Red Falcon, Ruby Rose Knight, Vigilant Knight of Helm, Wary Swordknight
Ranger: Fangshields Ranger, Shadow Sword, Shooting Star
Wizard: Dukar
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5 years ago ::
Jan 07, 2008 - 2:01AM
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I noticed that you haven't included the 24 or so substitution levels in Champions of Valor, although I understand that you might be busy compiling them as I type this.
For reference:
Spoiler:
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Bbn: Fangshields Barbarian
Cleric: Purple Staff
Druid: Fangshields Druid
Fighter: Darksong Knight
Monk: Broken One, Phoenix Disciple
Paladin: Berronar Valkyrie, Claw of the Sun and the Ankh, Crescent Moon Knight, Eternal Order, Golden Cup, Golden Lion, Holy Judge, Lion Legionnaire, Mystic Fire Knight, Noble Heart, Red Falcon, Ruby Rose Knight, Vigilant Knight of Helm, Wary Swordknight
Ranger: Fangshields Ranger, Shadow Sword, Shooting Star
Wizard: Dukar
But they make me cry .
Actually, I am working on this, but I will be needing a little time to wrap up and add it in.
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5 years ago ::
Jan 10, 2008 - 7:45PM
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Alright, I have been working on the Champions of Valor class features for two weeks; now they are complete, and the index is updated. As always, let me know if you find something wrong, so I can fix it.
I still intend to go back through all of the old entries and standardize the way the information is presented, but it will likely take a while, and I feel no need to hurry this, because it is a very minor inconvenience to using the data here.
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5 years ago ::
Jan 10, 2008 - 8:42PM
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Date Joined:
Aug 26, 2007
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First of all, very nice job.
Unless I'm mistaken, you don't have the Psionic Articifer alternative class features, or for the Spell-thief either - is this intentional?
EDIT: Or Unarmed Swordsage, or Arcane Swordsage (though after tying that, I feel like washing my hands repeatedly).
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