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6 years ago  ::  Feb 15, 2007 - 9:54AM #21
JanusJones
Date Joined: Sep 5, 2005
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That definition's TOTALLY going to the top of the post.

As to ToB VS. Factotum, it ain't a contest. They do drastically different things, and have vastly different potential for development. Cunning Surge is, without question, the most powerful ability they grab, but there's a lot more they can do.

Check above - I've added some builds, and the guide is slowly growing. I'm adding more and more daily - I just figured writing it as a post would take less time and work than doing it in Word, transporting it, re-editing it for the forum format, etc.
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6 years ago  ::  Feb 15, 2007 - 10:00AM #22
FlimFlam
Date Joined: Aug 7, 2004
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JanusJones wrote:

That definition's TOTALLY going to the top of the post.

As to ToB VS. Factotum, it ain't a contest. They do drastically different things, and have vastly different potential for development. Cunning Surge is, without question, the most powerful ability they grab, but there's a lot more they can do.

Check above - I've added some builds, and the guide is slowly growing. I'm adding more and more daily - I just figured writing it as a post would take less time and work than doing it in Word, transporting it, re-editing it for the forum format, etc.


Could you also by chance correct the word Dungeonscape (you spelled it Deongeonscape) in the first sentence. It's bugging me

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6 years ago  ::  Feb 15, 2007 - 10:46AM #23
JanusJones
Date Joined: Sep 5, 2005
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Argh. I type so dang fast when I get excited. Thanks.
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6 years ago  ::  Feb 15, 2007 - 11:25AM #24
zombiegleemax
Date Joined: Aug 10, 2009
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I'm not sure if what I was saying in the latter part of my post got across clearly, so I'll try to say things a bit clearer:

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  • Does Cunning Brilliance exclude the Factotum from the base classes from which abilities can be selected?
  • If not, do inspiration points fall under an extraordinary ability of the Factotum class?
  • If so, would it be possible to use Cunning Brilliance to emulate the inspiration point totals of a Factotum, thereby gaining more inspiration points?
  • If so, those extra points could, in turn, be used to fuel more abilities or gain even more inspiration points through further uses of Cunning Brilliance.

    I know that this is probably on shaky ground, given that I (a) don't own the book and (b) class feature stacking usually doesn't work out the best, but I just figured that I'd try anyway.
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    6 years ago  ::  Feb 15, 2007 - 11:28AM #25
    JanusJones
    Date Joined: Sep 5, 2005
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    Ah - I gotcha. No, Cunning Brilliance does NOT exclude the Factotum from the available list of base classes.

    Unfortunately, inspiration points are not an extraordinary class feature. Good idea, though!
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    6 years ago  ::  Feb 15, 2007 - 11:48AM #26
    zombiegleemax
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    Wow, this looks REALLY ****ING COOL!

    I'm going to have to pick up that book!
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    6 years ago  ::  Feb 15, 2007 - 1:07PM #27
    Iry
    Date Joined: Aug 20, 2002
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    Some of the most basic tricks of the Factotum seem to be along the lines of (1) Cunning Insight + Manyshot + (3) Cunning Surge + (1) Cunning Insight + Manyshot = 1st Round Arrow Nova.

    However, it appears as if the class lends itself heavily towards being a Buff Gish of sorts. What BAB does this class have, and do the Spell-Like Abilities cost inspiration points to use? (I'm assuming they require a standard action like normal)

    And, could the Sneak Attack inspiration class feature qualify you for Sneak Attack based feats? Wether feats like Craven or Swift Ambusher?
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    6 years ago  ::  Feb 15, 2007 - 1:23PM #28
    Edea
    Date Joined: Jan 13, 2006
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    BAB is 3/4 (if it were full, THEN I'd like this class).

    The arcane emulation SLAs do not require IP, they're 1/day.

    I think the sneak attack emulation should qualify, but RAW that seems a bit iffy; you don't always have it on, so you'd only "meet the prerequisite" of sneak attack +(whatever)d6 for the round you threw the IP into it.
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    6 years ago  ::  Feb 15, 2007 - 6:13PM #29
    zombiegleemax
    Date Joined: Aug 10, 2009
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    JanusJones wrote:

    CLASS ABILITIES TO IMITATE


    I don't have the book, but from what I see, it can only imitate extraordinary abilities, right ? with no possibility for spell-like or supernatural abilities ?

    Hmmm... would Sudden Strike (Ninja) be a good idea ?

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    6 years ago  ::  Feb 15, 2007 - 6:14PM #30
    JanusJones
    Date Joined: Sep 5, 2005
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    Sneak Attack would be better, since it applies to flanked opponents as well as flat-footed ones.
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