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5 years ago ::
Apr 21, 2008 - 1:46PM
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Thanks for the correction: it's good to have people keep me in line. I would have double-checked before posting it in the guide itself, since I'm aware that my memory is fallible (as you just proved).
Though not all mages will have that skill trick (it's perfect for Beguilers), it does mean a counterspeller should not always trust the spell identification. Disguise Spell is even worse in that regard since it can be used repeatedly.
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5 years ago ::
Apr 21, 2008 - 3:31PM
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Dispelling & Counterspelling Compilation
I'll pony up that Pierce Magical Protection is probably one of the best buff dispelling tools in the game, since it's auto success, ignores the AC benefit of those buffs, and works against any spell that grants an AC benefit.
However, the -8 caster level from this and Mage Slayer probably means you won't be using it in a dispel build.
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5 years ago ::
Apr 22, 2008 - 7:54PM
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As alternative to archmage, I suggest Srinshee's spell shift from Lost Empires of Faerun. Yes, it's a 9th-level spell, but it's better than the class's ability. A cleric could get it by using Divine Magician. For maximum effect, use Divine Metamagic to make the spell last all day.
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5 years ago ::
Apr 22, 2008 - 8:28PM
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Great suggestion ! The redirecting ability is not as good as the one granted by Reaving Dispel, but it has a duration so that you can use it with several lower-level dispels.
@aelrynth: I had initially decided not to mention PMP because it requires a completely different focus, but I guess it can't hurt.
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5 years ago ::
Apr 22, 2008 - 8:33PM
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The redirecting ability is not as good as the one granted by Reaving Dispel, but it has a duration so that you can use it with several lower-level dispels.
The spell should also work with Divine Defiance, which may not even require spelling spell slots. Between that and battlemagic perception, I could see it being worth using a standard action to cast.
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5 years ago ::
Apr 22, 2008 - 9:10PM
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Divine Defiance does require slots, simply because any other interpretation is ridiculous.  More constructively, there is another feat in FoE - which I now realize I didn't add - that allows you to spend several turn attempts to counter someone's spell, but still requires you to ready an action. And the text of Divine Defiance does say "Jozan can [...] counter [...] if he had prepared the spell." 'If', not 'as if'. Now, don't worry about Spell Shift: I just gave it a raving review. It's great and yet it does not obsolete Reaving Dispel (think about a buffed BBEG wading into melee...) - a Divine Magician cleric will have to choose one (an Archivist will have both !).
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5 years ago ::
Apr 23, 2008 - 8:03AM
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Yeah, that's a good point about the feat's text. Does that mean a roll would be required as normal if using dispel magic or a similar spell?
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5 years ago ::
Apr 23, 2008 - 3:59PM
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It allows you to counterspell without readying an action, as an immediate action : that's it. As per the counterspelling rules, you still need to use Dispel Magic (& Co.) and succeed on the dispel check or identify the spell and counter it with itself or another appropriate spell (Slow vs Haste).
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5 years ago ::
Apr 23, 2008 - 7:29PM
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Sounds a lot more balanced than other interpretations I've seen. Good.
As a side note, I don't think the ring of spell-battle from the MIC allows you redirect disjunction. It's not a targeted spell.
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5 years ago ::
Apr 23, 2008 - 7:36PM
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Yeah, that came up elsewhere too. The old version in CA allowed it and I mixed them up.
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