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8 years ago ::
Aug 28, 2005 - 12:05AM
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However, this is an infinite loop, as far as I can see it. You could continue doing this for an indefinite period of time, given a timeless plane (e.g. the Astral Plane) Infinite loops are fun theoreticals, but really should not be compared to the more traditional non-infinite builds. That is, Pun-pun does more damage than the Hurler, granted, but it also has the potential to do just about the same amount of damage as a Cancer Mage - infinite. It likewise has about the same modifer on jump, climb, and other checks as a Cancer Mage, and all to the same end. You'll note that Funny specifically excluded infinite loops in his thread of world records, and I doubt he will change this policy. The one thing you can say about Pun-pun is that you managed to make all of his stats approach infinity, which is something not accomplished before. For that feat, I tip my hat to you, sir! 
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8 years ago ::
Aug 28, 2005 - 12:20AM
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Infinite loops are fun theoreticals, but really should not be compared to the more traditional non-infinite builds. That is, Pun-pun does more damage than the Hurler, granted, but it also has the potential to do just about the same amount of damage as a Cancer Mage - infinite. It likewise has about the same modifer on jump, climb, and other checks as a Cancer Mage, and all to the same end. You'll note that Funny specifically excluded infinite loops in his thread of world records, and I doubt he will change this policy.[/quote]
I know, it makes sense to disallow Infinite Loops in a records thread. I wasn't trying to get on the World Records thread, I just figured the easiest way to show the power was to match him against other builds. He is sort of like a gestalt of the most powerful builds out there. You know... like that alien guy that had all of the powers of the Fantastic Four :embarrass.
The one thing you can say about Pun-pun is that you managed to make all of his stats approach infinity, which is something not accomplished before. For that feat, I tip my hat to you, sir!
Thank you  . I guess if you are going to play an infinite-loop build, you should play the best.
EDIT: Hey, I've been sigged. Sweet :D.
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8 years ago ::
Aug 28, 2005 - 12:38AM
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still though this is the strongest build out there. mainly because it only needs 12 levels. while most other builds need the normal 20. i don't know if there is any build that could compete agansit this one and win .
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8 years ago ::
Aug 28, 2005 - 1:23AM
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This is where I point out one of the few weaknesses in your character...
If you pulled this, you would gain the attention of the gods. The gods, knowing what you can do, create a similar being and, through one of their many demi-planes, allow this version of you to pull the same tricks with the time for him equalling something along the lines of 1,000,000 years = 1 second. Now, since this version of you has Divine Rank Zero bestowed on it and is immortal, it pumps it's stats up to 879,000,000 x googleplex and, about two seconds later, it kills you.
This is what will happen. Afterward, the Diety un-creates it and erases the Sharruk from existance.
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8 years ago ::
Aug 28, 2005 - 1:33AM
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still though this is the strongest build out there. mainly because it only needs 12 levels. while most other builds need the normal 20. i don't know if there is any build that could compete agansit this one and win .[/quote]
At equal level, nothing a simple human rogue 1 / barbarian 1 / fighter 2 / cancer mage 1 infected by festering anger and vile rigidity can't beat. Best to nip this kind of thing before it ever comes to bloom.
@Christman: I rarely consider "The direct intervention of a greater deity can stop it" a very compelling weakness in a build.  But, to put a mechanic behind your thought, there is always the Aleix (sp?), which, while requiring the attention of a deity to create, will have abilities equivalent to those of its target
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8 years ago ::
Aug 28, 2005 - 1:39AM
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At equal level, nothing a simple human rogue 1 / barbarian 1 / fighter 2 / cancer mage 1 infected by festering anger and vile rigidity can't beat. Best to nip this kind of thing before it ever comes to bloom.
@Christman: I rarely consider "The direct intervention of a greater deity can stop it" a very compelling weakness in a build. But, to put a mechanic behind your thought, there is always the Aleix (sp?), which, while requiring the attention of a deity to create, will have abilities equivalent to those of its target
The Aleax, yeah. The above idea is similar, but I couldn't remember the name of that thing so I "ghettoed" one. 
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8 years ago ::
Aug 28, 2005 - 1:45AM
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Thank god the king happend to be a kobold.
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8 years ago ::
Aug 28, 2005 - 5:31AM
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Khan, you won. Infinite loops on everything. That should be the most optimized/min-maxed/broken build ever. Gratz. Now i fail to see the reason for this forum. In the Sticky it should say: Your character suck? Just be a damn Kobold Psion. :D . . . . Thank god, or Pun-pun, for Funny's contest: Non-loop builds, without it, reason for DND CO's would be lost . . . . 
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8 years ago ::
Aug 28, 2005 - 6:29AM
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I knwe there was a reason we kill kobolds on sight!
..good thing no kobold is intelligent enough to start the loop.
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8 years ago ::
Aug 28, 2005 - 7:53AM
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Hmmm...interesting.
Question, though: Could a were-serpent take advantage of this? (I contrcted it as a youth, so, no LA :D )
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