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6 years ago  ::  Jun 28, 2007 - 11:04PM #1
zombiegleemax
Date Joined: Aug 10, 2009
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Check out the newest article on psionic classes.

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There are a number of things that I saw that has promise but the erudites ability is just crazy. At the bargin price of giving up their first level feat they get to learn any arcane spell as a power. Well they have to make a check to learn it but it lets them convert any arcane spell to a power of the same level. Now I don't have the time or the chops to figure out what this could mean but having any arcane spell as a power has got to be pretty strong.
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6 years ago  ::  Jun 28, 2007 - 11:20PM #2
Edea
Date Joined: Jan 13, 2006
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Ewww, I see a quasi-triple threat build in the near future...I think I liked the new Lurk augments the most, that Erudite section isn't executed very well IMO.
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6 years ago  ::  Jun 28, 2007 - 11:34PM #3
Phoenix00
Date Joined: Aug 2, 2006
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I love the Dominant Ideal. Very little reason not to do that if you go full Ardent.

Subsitute Power is just a plain old fashion power boost. Yes you have to go with the mantle's theme, but you can choose any power effectively choosing the best of psion, a discipline, psychic warrior, lurk etc.
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6 years ago  ::  Jun 28, 2007 - 11:36PM #4
Edea
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Yeah, this article is saved to my hard drive.
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6 years ago  ::  Jun 28, 2007 - 11:42PM #5
Phoenix00
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OMG at the last erudite option, the arcane one, the first two are no brainers over the erudite. But the third one...argh.

Why would a player play a full wizard when he can do this

Wizard 1/Erudite 3/Cerbemancer 10/X 6 (x being psionic) Using Precocious Apprentice or Improved Sigil Krau

Now that you learn spells which are strong than powers, as powers of the same level at lvl 20 you can cast about 15 9th lvl spells (311 power points + Bonus Power Points). You use the 11 lvls of wizard for buffing purposes. Yes you whill have to choose your spells correctly that you cast through Erudite since at lvl 20 you only have 10 unique different spells per day, but that is still enough to get things done.
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6 years ago  ::  Jun 28, 2007 - 11:45PM #6
Phoenix00
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Furthermore, it is any spell. It doesn't say wiz/sorc, it doesn't say arcane or divine, it is any spell.
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6 years ago  ::  Jun 28, 2007 - 11:49PM #7
Antendren
Date Joined: Oct 2, 2004
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Now that you learn spells which are strong than powers, as powers of the same level at lvl 20 you can cast about 15 9th lvl spells


No, you can't. You learn spells as discipline powers. Discipline powers can only be learned if their level is at least 1 less than the highest level power you can manifest. So an Erudite is never learning 9th level spells.

There is still plenty of reason to choose wizard: faster access to higher level spells, ability to cast more variety per day, free augmentation.

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6 years ago  ::  Jun 28, 2007 - 11:58PM #8
zombiegleemax
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Well I guess that means you can finally be a decent healer as a psionic class. Holy crap, I have to reread erudite. I mean having access to any spell (even at one level lower) and being able to spontaniously cast those spells is just crazy.
I don't even want to think about what you can do with item creation. I mean you can have wands (or whatever those psion wands are called) for any spell you need. Crazy, just crazy.

First thing I'm doing as an erudite in hunting down a trapsmith for his crazy spell list. Haste for 1pp, yes please, arcane sight, knock, ohhh @#$@ ERROR ERROR @#$%^&^
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6 years ago  ::  Jun 29, 2007 - 12:05AM #9
BenSan
Date Joined: Dec 28, 2006
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Substituting 2 PP for any material component isn't half-bad, either. The discipline level limit means that'll be within your manifesting ability for any spell you learn.
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6 years ago  ::  Jun 29, 2007 - 12:11AM #10
Antendren
Date Joined: Oct 2, 2004
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Substituting 2 PP for any material component isn't half-bad, either.


Yeah, that was the bit that really caught my attention. Hello Forcecage.

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