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6 years ago  ::  Jan 16, 2007 - 6:21AM #31
Father_Dale
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Divine Oracle - 10 -Complete Divine

Although meeting the skill requirement is tough and requires some work (Education feat, for instance).

I would take off Wizard of High Sorcery. While a Sorcerer could technically qualify for the PRC by taking the Arcane Preparation feat, there is absolutely no way that the Order of High Sorcery will take a sorcerer into its mix. The sorcerer would have to convert into a wizard (theres rules for that). The roleplay restrictions in Dragonlance would simply prohibit this from being an option for sorcerers, despite the name.
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6 years ago  ::  Jan 16, 2007 - 6:32AM #32
Xylem
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Keeper of the Cerulean Sign - 10 - Lords of Madness

The skill requirements can be tricky as it is clearly more aimed at Bards, but, taking three levels of Ruathar first would make the skills straight-forward (and then you still need a couple of feats and a spell known).
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6 years ago  ::  Jan 16, 2007 - 9:19AM #33
zombiegleemax
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Father Dale wrote:

I would take off Wizard of High Sorcery. While a Sorcerer could technically qualify for the PRC by taking the Arcane Preparation feat, there is absolutely no way that the Order of High Sorcery will take a sorcerer into its mix. The sorcerer would have to convert into a wizard (theres rules for that). The roleplay restrictions in Dragonlance would simply prohibit this from being an option for sorcerers, despite the name.


While from a flavor standpoint I agree entirely, I cannot ignore that it is possible to gain entry to the PrC as a sorcerer. All you need is Spell Focus, Arcane Preparation, and any two metamagic or item creation feats. Passing the test to gain entry might prove extremely difficult for a sorcerer but it can be done and should not be disqualified for flavor reasons.

The OP wanted a list of PrC's that are possible for a sorcerer to take with full caster progression and frankly I see nothing in the text under requirements the words "Wizard Only."

A_D

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6 years ago  ::  Jan 16, 2007 - 2:20PM #34
Father_Dale
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Animae_Draconum wrote:

While from a flavor standpoint I agree entirely, I cannot ignore that it is possible to gain entry to the PrC as a sorcerer. All you need is Spell Focus, Arcane Preparation, and any two metamagic or item creation feats. Passing the test to gain entry might prove extremely difficult for a sorcerer but it can be done and should not be disqualified for flavor reasons.

The OP wanted a list of PrC's that are possible for a sorcerer to take with full caster progression and frankly I see nothing in the text under requirements the words "Wizard Only."

A_D


But that ignores the fact that there is indeed a roleplay requirement to qualify for the PRC, namely, passing the test. The test simply would not be administered to a sorcerer. It would violate the must fundamental tenants of the order, and the three gods of magic (the ones who grant magical ability to wizards in the first place) would prevent it in any event.

The only way it could possibly be done would be to convert the sorcerer levels into wizard levels, and I believe there are rules for that in the Towers of High Sorcery book.

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6 years ago  ::  Jan 16, 2007 - 3:25PM #35
Mr_Teapot
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AZNsupermarket wrote:

My apologies. I stand corrected. It will be re-added.


While you're at it, add Arcane Trickster to the list as well. Same deal, Assassin's Stance plus some cross class skill sand you can hit it by level 11 with no loss of spellcasting.

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6 years ago  ::  Jan 16, 2007 - 6:06PM #36
AZNsupermarket
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Animae_Draconum wrote:

The OP wanted a list of PrC's that are possible for a sorcerer to take with full caster progression and frankly I see nothing in the text under requirements the words "Wizard Only."


I really just wanted all the ones that were generally worth taking. How worth it is the prestiege class?

Animae_Draconum wrote:

Should I proceed to dig up other partial progression classes?


If you could list partial progression classes that are generally worth taking to the point right before full progression ends, that would be nice.

BTW thanks for the long list of prestige classes

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6 years ago  ::  Jan 16, 2007 - 6:08PM #37
AZNsupermarket
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Mr_Teapot wrote:

While you're at it, add Arcane Trickster to the list as well. Same deal, Assassin's Stance plus some cross class skill sand you can hit it by level 11 with no loss of spellcasting.


I might seem a bit dense, but I'm having a bit of trouble following what feats would need to be taken in order to get Assassin stance?

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6 years ago  ::  Jan 16, 2007 - 6:14PM #38
The_Rizz
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Well, I can add several to the list.
As in the first post, a * will denote classes that continue past the listed number of levels, but without continuing casting progression.

Auspician - 10 - FR: Faiths & Pantheons (3.0)
Bladesinger - 1* - Complete Warrior
Dragonslayer - 1* - Draconomicon
Evreskan Tomb Guardian - 5 - FR: Player's Guide to Faerun
Goldeye - 10 - FR: Faiths & Pantheons (3.0)
Heartwarder - 10 - FR: Faiths & Pantheons (3.0)
Moonstar Agent - 5 - FR: City of Splendors: Waterdeep
Knight of the Thorn - 10 - Dragonlance Campaign Setting
Raumathari Battlemage - 4* - FR: Unapproachable East
Spellsword - 1* - Complete Warrior
Thrall of Demogorgon - 1* - Book of Vile Darkness (3.0)
Thrall of Orcus - 1* - Book of Vile Darkness (3.0)
Thrall of Eltab - 1* - FR: Champions of Ruin
Unseen Seer - 10 - Complete Mage
Zhentarim Skymage - 5 - FR: Lords of Darkness (3.0)


Classes with Special Requirements:

Dreadmaster - 10 - FR: Faiths & Pantheons (3.0) - requires: domain: hatred or tyrrany
Knight of the Blue Moon - 5 - FR: City of Splendors: Waterdeep - requires: Turn Undead
Verdant Lord - 10 - Masters of the Wild (3.0) - requires: 3 spells outside the Sorc/Wiz list


The Hexer would also be good on this list, if there were a way to get the ability to cast lightning bolt as a divine spell. I seem to remember there was a way for an arcane caster to cast a domain's spells as divine spells, but cannot seem to find it - anyone know what that might have been?
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6 years ago  ::  Jan 16, 2007 - 6:17PM #39
AZNsupermarket
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Father Dale wrote:

But that ignores the fact that there is indeed a roleplay requirement to qualify for the PRC, namely, passing the test. The test simply would not be administered to a sorcerer. It would violate the must fundamental tenants of the order, and the three gods of magic (the ones who grant magical ability to wizards in the first place) would prevent it in any event.


Now granted my experience with Dragonlance is EXTREMELY limited, is it possible that the wizards administering the test were unaware that sorcerer in question was in fact a sorcerer and not a wizard?

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6 years ago  ::  Jan 16, 2007 - 6:31PM #40
AZNsupermarket
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The Rizz wrote:

The Hexer would also be good on this list, if there were a way to get the ability to cast lightning bolt as a divine spell. I seem to remember there was a way for an arcane caster to cast a domain's spells as divine spells, but cannot seem to find it - anyone know what that might have been?


The feat you are thinking of is Arcane Disciple (Complete Divine). Now, how many level is the hexer? And what book is it from?

BTW thanks for the long list of prestige classes

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