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4 years ago ::
Mar 22, 2009 - 2:08AM
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Has anyone tackeled this at all? Im actuly going to run a experiment with a randomly generated dungeon soon and would love to compare notes with anyone whos running or has ran a 4th ed. Mystara campaign.
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4 years ago ::
Mar 22, 2009 - 4:49PM
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Mar 21, 2009
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Interesting. I was thinking of doing the same; I spent this afternoon looking through the gazetteers and reminiscing on days (going back 20+ years) when this was the setting of choice for me. Might have to work something up for a return to Threshold and dealing with that ol' villain, Bargle. Have you seen the updated stats for him in the article archive? (if not, search for Bargle and then select the D&D Alumni article link, then scroll down...)
So, where are you looking to set your adventures? Maybe we can do some brain-storming and help each other out...
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4 years ago ::
Mar 22, 2009 - 7:18PM
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Date Joined:
Feb 15, 2005
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I was thinking of 3 diffrent things I could do:
1: Start with 3.5 and have them see the world change around them (not unlike the FR setting) and see the transtion to 4th edition.
2: Its been some years later after the transtion to 4th edition and the party was charged with storming a ruined castle in the remote north-eastern part of Karameikos.
3: Slam Mystara into a stewing pot, turn the heat on, stick the spoon in and give it a nice swerl and then spoon it into a bowl and say "Here you go, have fun and dont get killed". ;-P
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4 years ago ::
Mar 23, 2009 - 4:43AM
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Date Joined:
Oct 31, 2004
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I am doing a 4E Mystara campaign at the moment. With the release of 4E we started there into the new ruleset...I have still my old stuff from there and with 20 years gone hopefully few players remember it  I choose as starting point Specularum in Karameikos, with a traditional western adventuring party. I am writing some of the adventures myself, and re-write others of the old modules, which I would like to give a replay after the years.
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4 years ago ::
Mar 23, 2009 - 7:09AM
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Date Joined:
Apr 11, 2008
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I'm also running a 4e Mystara campaign at the moment.
On a scale of 1-10, where 1 is a pure Mystara setting and 10 is a pure 4e points-of-light setting, it's probably about a 7 or an 8.
I basically went through the Players Handbook and Monster Manual and wrote down all the historical and cosmological information from them, and then took the "current" maps (not the post-Wrath ones without Alphatia) of Mystara and applied the history and cosmology to them.
So I have the 4e gods, rather than the Mystara immortals; and I have the whole gods vs. titans history...
The ancient Hobgoblin empire covered the western half of the "Known World".
Thyatis was founded by the Alphatian army that was sent to help get rid of the Hobgoblin empire, and then decided to stay rather than going home.
Ylarum was formerly the Dragonborn kingdom of Arkhosia, and Sind was formerly the centre of the Tiefling empire. The Tieflings destroyed Arkhosia leaving the wastes now called Ylarum, but their magic (also aided by the wrath of the gods) rebounded on them and destroyed their own empire, leaving the Desert of Sind.
I've placed Shifters - from the Players Handbook 2 - as the Atrahuagin Clans.
The Serpent Peninsula is the remains of the old Yuan Ti empire - rather than be destroyed, their capital and the surrounding area simply disappeared one night as they dabbled too much with the Far Realms; leaving the sea to pour into the hole left by it and form the Dhiki Namazzi in a minor cataclysm.
Alfheim has strong ties to the Feywild and is home to the Eladrin.
Elves, on the other hand, mainly live in the Minothrad Guilds, and are both foresters and swashbuckling pirates.
Norwald used to be ruled by the giants, with dwarven slaves. It was the rebellion (and migration south) of these dwarves that ended the Hobgoblin empire as the Eladrin of Alfheim (always an independent thorn in the Hobgoblin's side) and the humans of Thyatis forced the Hobgoblins to fight a war on three fronts. Since that time, the Dwarves have lived in Rockholme - the former centre of the Hobgoblin empire.
So the geography and current political situation is much the same as a traditional Mystara campaign (with the addition of Tieflings and Dragonborn), but I've re-written the history to match 4e.
It's probably enough to make Mystara purists wince; but it works for me and my players.
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4 years ago ::
Mar 23, 2009 - 2:36PM
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Date Joined:
Mar 21, 2009
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Some great ideas coming through; I think I'll mix and match 'em. Basically, I'm not going to change all that much major stuff (apart from introducing the 4e gods) from the Mystara setting. The Principalities of Glantri, and the city of Glantri in particular will be magic-centric, so this is where all the 'modern' stuff comes in, like warforged and artificers and anything I might feel like pinching from the Eberron setting. I would like to think of this as 'Eberron meets Classical Venice' setting as that's what I got from the Glantri gazzeteer, this feeling of gothic classical, so it should be interesting what happens when tech-magic hits here. Apart from the obvious elemental-powered gondolas, of course...  As for other races, I think Tieflings might have something to do with the ancient Blackmoor device that (as I remember, apologies if I'm wrong) now lies beneath The Broken Lands. I'd like to introduce demons into this area, and make the Orcs and their brethren the demons' footsoldiers. Maybe Orcus is attempting to solve the mysteries of the Blackmoor device and cause a future apocalypse? But let's keep this going guys, already I feel my enthusiasm for the setting returning. So thanks to all!
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4 years ago ::
Mar 23, 2009 - 9:01PM
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Jan 27, 2006
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I like the ideas presented here. I think because the immortals are one of the things I like a lot about the Mystara setting, I'd want to adapt them to 4E rather than take the 4E deities and put them into Mystara.
I think working the Radiance and Radiance magic into your campaign is a good idea. I think you would have new rituals and paragon paths and epic destinies built around the Blackmoor device and those seeking to use it.
I'd probably locate the homelands of the Dragonborn and Tieflings outside the main Known World countries but that's my personal take. I like the idea of the Master of the Desert Nomads working with dark powers. The ancient Nithian empire could also be a source of darkness, or at least the root for modern day extraplanar races/monsters.
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4 years ago ::
Mar 24, 2009 - 4:50AM
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Date Joined:
Oct 31, 2004
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I am toying with the idea of re-writing the orders of magic in the Glantri Gazetteer and the Radiance.
I am undecided, though, what the special spells should be in 4E. They could be normal powers, available only to the initiated of the order, I could make some of them rituals, others feats, some could become character/race features (similar to clas features), or I could tack them on as paragon/epic paths, or even a class available only through multiclassing (similar to the spellscarred).
The Radiance would best be a multiclass option, but that approach has a drawback I don't like: the character has to gain access very early, if the PMC option comes into play, or even if a special PP based upon Radiance is introduced. The Radiance is something which should be found out only during paragon levels, though, which doesn't fit with the mechanics of multiclassing.
Has someone already tried something like this before and what were the results?
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4 years ago ::
Mar 24, 2009 - 7:09AM
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For those interested, there have been a number of 4E Mystara conversions done over on The Piazza. Keep the discussions going because there are some good ideas floating around. Reading what a few Mystara fans have said, Mystara (with its BECMI and variable 'points of light' feel) should convert very well to 4th Edition. Of course, the general feel of most of the online Mystara community is that it should be available to play in any edition or system.
The PiazzaA renaissance of the Old Worlds. Where any setting can be explored, any rules system discussed, and any combination of the two brought to life.
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4 years ago ::
Apr 08, 2009 - 12:43AM
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Date Joined:
Feb 15, 2005
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Ok, im going to hold a Mystara campaign, but I need players! I have not posted the add at the Piazza because im not sure where to post such a thing (I have a thread there asking about that). Im not sure which edition the game will be, im going to let the group pick either 3.x or 4th, but im leaning towards 4th edition personaly. Its going to be around Threshold. Thats about all I can say about where its going to take place at.
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