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3 years ago ::
Mar 31, 2010 - 7:04PM
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SilverFalcon my advice is NOT to read them. They will jade you to all other fantasy novels.
I think 4E would have to tone down the bloodline powers or handle them in a fashion similar to Dragonmarks in Ebberon.
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3 years ago ::
Apr 06, 2010 - 12:15AM
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I'd love a 4e Birthright. Or, barring that, some sort of broader domain-rulership rules to go with 4e that are setting neutral.
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3 years ago ::
Apr 24, 2010 - 8:21PM
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I would love to see a 4e BR. It was a great setting and has some awesome NPCs. The world was one of our top campaigns we ever ran. I know some had problems with PC rulers, but we did not at all. The political aspects of the campaign was awesome.
Some ideas I would have:
A campaign guide suggesting running 2 sets of PCs....1 set as rules and another set as adventuring champions from the domain.
Like others said....I think bloodline powers would be similar to dragonmarks. It may be difficult to add the diversity in the 2E version, but perhaps selecting a feat for a bloodline linked to one of the god's bloodlines and then a choice of powers as channel divinity allows for divine characters along with a bonus to a skill.
The BR cosmology is different and I think Eberron established that it is okay to deviate on that to make a world work where needed.
The one thing that many have tried in 4e conversions is to make the humans of BR. I think each nation would have their normal human bonus added to a particular stat (or choice between 2) and a skill added to their list.
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3 years ago ::
May 20, 2010 - 11:36AM
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I have been working on a 4e Birthright conversion and running a 4e Birthright campaign for the past year. Poor schedules have made the game run much less frequently than we would like, but progress is steady.
I haven't had a big problem combining 4e and Birthright. Not all 4e classes are available, and neither are all races. Some classes are available to all races due to cultural differences (e.g. only elves may take the Avenger class [Gheal in Birthright], which is now Primal rather than Divine). My players have enjoyed playing in a world with some restrictions.
I fall squarely between the so-called "simulationist" and "power-gaming" sides of the debate. I just want run a fun D&D world for my players to explore.
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3 years ago ::
May 30, 2010 - 3:38AM
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Date Joined:
Jun 15, 2006
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I think Birthright would be a perfect setting for a multi-player online videogame of roleplaying and economic strategy.
"Say me what you're showing off for, and I'll say you what you lack!" (Spanish saying)
Book 13 Anaclet 23
Confucius said: "The Superior Man is in harmony but does not follow the crowd. The inferior man follows the crowd, but is not in harmony"
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3 years ago ::
Jun 27, 2010 - 8:00AM
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dose anyone have a good conversion to 4E? If so i love to see it.
thanks
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3 years ago ::
Sep 03, 2010 - 11:17AM
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4e Birthright is rather pointless, when Reign does it so much better than 4e ever could.
Reign is built from the ground up to handle royalty, it has well integrated mechanics for companies, covering both political intrigue as well as tactics, and even operating with a squad or a platoon for important missions that need royal oversight. It can even handle several characters per player so depending on what needs to be done, different characters band together while the mechanics handle the other ones in the background.
Combat wise it's also just plain better. AD&D was never designed for hit locations and rules for it were never integrated terribly well even with optional supplements, d20 didn't change that and 4e has made it even less practical thanks to abstracting damage even more. Reign has hit locations built in, and one for the heart can be specified, so the whole idea of stealing blood powers works much better.
There's just no sense in doing Birthright for D&D 4e when doing it with Reign is far more natural and ends up much better.
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2 years ago ::
Mar 20, 2011 - 6:47PM
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Sep 14, 2005
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We played campaigns for BR a couple of times. Each time we ended with a couple assassinations that lead to some real-world hard feelings. Kinda funny if you look back at it now. I don't know what "Reign" is but I'd love to see a 4th Ed BR...
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2 years ago ::
May 08, 2011 - 8:21AM
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I would prefer to see Birthright incorporated into the Points of Light Setting much the way Planescape and Spelljammer have been, rather than a whole campaign setting like Eberron and Forgotten Realms.
Skip Cerilia, but incorporate the ideas of bloodlines, domains, and regencies. Themes, Paragon Paths, Epic Destinies, Rituals, and Martial Practices all seem like great ways to incorporate aspects of Birthright into the 4e milieu. Couple this with an Unearthed Arcana rules on warfare.
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2 years ago ::
May 19, 2011 - 12:08PM
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Jun 17, 2008
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4e Birthright is rather pointless, when Reign does it so much better than 4e ever could.
Reigns a great system. I also like Fate (LOA) for Birthright but Burning Wheel is probably my favourite system to pipe dream a conversion for.
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